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On April 16 2014 21:09 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:08 MrCon wrote:On April 16 2014 21:06 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 MrCon wrote:
This scenario is common, cheese then when the opponent picks a perfect safe macro map, play greedy and fuck him....this has happened so many times in code A over the years that this was really disappointing by Flash to get owned by it >< That game 2 is unforgivable, even me knew Shine would cheese just by tuning in 5mn before the game, how could Flash not. Shine didn't play greedy. It was a completely fair and even macro game in game3. Flash even had better upgrades all game Well he was at 74 drones very early, he could spam lings without damaging his eco because of this. It was not extreme greed, but it was the perfect zerg undisturbed early game that every zerg dream of. Because Flash donated all of his hellions...
Yep, after Shine managed to kill Flash hellions, he had perfect map control and then he perfectly exploited the rather big map to prevent any push for long enough to get lots of bases and then his eco was just too strong to overcome.
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On April 16 2014 21:12 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:11 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:10 TheDwf wrote:On April 16 2014 21:09 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:08 MrCon wrote:On April 16 2014 21:06 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 MrCon wrote:
This scenario is common, cheese then when the opponent picks a perfect safe macro map, play greedy and fuck him....this has happened so many times in code A over the years that this was really disappointing by Flash to get owned by it >< That game 2 is unforgivable, even me knew Shine would cheese just by tuning in 5mn before the game, how could Flash not. Shine didn't play greedy. It was a completely fair and even macro game in game3. Flash even had better upgrades all game Well he was at 74 drones very early, he could spam lings without damaging his eco because of this. It was not extreme greed, but it was the perfect zerg undisturbed early game that every zerg dream of. Because Flash donated all of his hellions... Traded them against 30 lings.* And you can't do anything against 5 queens 30 lings with 3 Reapers 6 Hellions anyway, so had this trade not occurred Shine would have kept droning as well. When a Terran opens triple OC dual EB Zerg is always free to get 70-75 drones. Flash really did triple CC into double ebay in game 3 as well? Man so Flash even had the better build than Shine and still lost a macro game o.O He didn't have a better build at all, what are you even talking about...
Triple CC double ebay is the greediest build terran can go for...
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On April 16 2014 21:11 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:10 TheDwf wrote:On April 16 2014 21:09 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:08 MrCon wrote:On April 16 2014 21:06 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 MrCon wrote:
This scenario is common, cheese then when the opponent picks a perfect safe macro map, play greedy and fuck him....this has happened so many times in code A over the years that this was really disappointing by Flash to get owned by it >< That game 2 is unforgivable, even me knew Shine would cheese just by tuning in 5mn before the game, how could Flash not. Shine didn't play greedy. It was a completely fair and even macro game in game3. Flash even had better upgrades all game Well he was at 74 drones very early, he could spam lings without damaging his eco because of this. It was not extreme greed, but it was the perfect zerg undisturbed early game that every zerg dream of. Because Flash donated all of his hellions... Traded them against 30 lings.* And you can't do anything against 5 queens 30 lings with 3 Reapers 6 Hellions anyway, so had this trade not occurred Shine would have kept droning as well. When a Terran opens triple OC dual EB Zerg is always free to get 70-75 drones. Flash really did triple CC into double ebay in game 3 as well? Man so Flash even had the better build than Shine and still lost a macro game o.O
That's completely standard. Doing something else is what isn't standard with bio.
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pretty sure standard TvZ is zerg getting faster to 2-2 than terran isnt it?
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On April 16 2014 21:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On April 16 2014 21:11 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:10 TheDwf wrote:On April 16 2014 21:09 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:08 MrCon wrote:On April 16 2014 21:06 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 MrCon wrote:
This scenario is common, cheese then when the opponent picks a perfect safe macro map, play greedy and fuck him....this has happened so many times in code A over the years that this was really disappointing by Flash to get owned by it >< That game 2 is unforgivable, even me knew Shine would cheese just by tuning in 5mn before the game, how could Flash not. Shine didn't play greedy. It was a completely fair and even macro game in game3. Flash even had better upgrades all game Well he was at 74 drones very early, he could spam lings without damaging his eco because of this. It was not extreme greed, but it was the perfect zerg undisturbed early game that every zerg dream of. Because Flash donated all of his hellions... Traded them against 30 lings.* And you can't do anything against 5 queens 30 lings with 3 Reapers 6 Hellions anyway, so had this trade not occurred Shine would have kept droning as well. When a Terran opens triple OC dual EB Zerg is always free to get 70-75 drones. Flash really did triple CC into double ebay in game 3 as well? Man so Flash even had the better build than Shine and still lost a macro game o.O He didn't have a better build at all, what are you even talking about... Triple CC double ebay is the greediest build terran can go for...
Cut out the hellions and reapers (with a CC first) and make it double armory Mech instead of bio. Then we are talking greedy Terran.
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is it funny that i was making potato salad during these games?
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On April 16 2014 21:14 sharkie wrote:
pretty sure standard TvZ is zerg getting faster to 2-2 than terran isnt it?
Only with banshee openings. Which are indeed quite standard too, right.
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On April 16 2014 21:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:12 TheDwf wrote:On April 16 2014 21:11 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:10 TheDwf wrote:On April 16 2014 21:09 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:08 MrCon wrote:On April 16 2014 21:06 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 MrCon wrote:
This scenario is common, cheese then when the opponent picks a perfect safe macro map, play greedy and fuck him....this has happened so many times in code A over the years that this was really disappointing by Flash to get owned by it >< That game 2 is unforgivable, even me knew Shine would cheese just by tuning in 5mn before the game, how could Flash not. Shine didn't play greedy. It was a completely fair and even macro game in game3. Flash even had better upgrades all game Well he was at 74 drones very early, he could spam lings without damaging his eco because of this. It was not extreme greed, but it was the perfect zerg undisturbed early game that every zerg dream of. Because Flash donated all of his hellions... Traded them against 30 lings.* And you can't do anything against 5 queens 30 lings with 3 Reapers 6 Hellions anyway, so had this trade not occurred Shine would have kept droning as well. When a Terran opens triple OC dual EB Zerg is always free to get 70-75 drones. Flash really did triple CC into double ebay in game 3 as well? Man so Flash even had the better build than Shine and still lost a macro game o.O He didn't have a better build at all, what are you even talking about... Triple CC double ebay is the greediest build terran can go for...
Quad hatch double evo is the greediest build Zerg can go for... Almost 2 years after the Queen patch and you're still unaware of what Terran standard has become?
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The most importatnt thing is that people will always like Flash and Flash will always try hard to win games for his fans, YES he can not get to Code S but his SPL record shows that he is not bad and you must always remember that hard work will never betray like in cases with herO, Zest, RorO and soO.
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On April 16 2014 21:14 sharkie wrote:
pretty sure standard TvZ is zerg getting faster to 2-2 than terran isnt it?
No, not really. At least I remember watching more games where it is the other way around.
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On April 16 2014 21:14 sharkie wrote:
pretty sure standard TvZ is zerg getting faster to 2-2 than terran isnt it?
With Reaper expand, usually yes because Terrans tend to add 2 rax before dual EB.
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On April 16 2014 21:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
I just dont get it. His PL performance is at least Code S worthy. How the hell did he not advance out of this group.... Different preparation I guess, or bad day/week. A lot of players have flawless SPL performance while doing quite bad in Code S/A.
Like who? I can only think of Ty but I think he will crush face now that he actually got past the qualifier.
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On April 16 2014 21:17 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
I just dont get it. His PL performance is at least Code S worthy. How the hell did he not advance out of this group.... Different preparation I guess, or bad day/week. A lot of players have flawless SPL performance while doing quite bad in Code S/A. Like who? I can only think of Ty but I think he will crush face now that he actually got past the qualifier.
Creator for example.
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Flash is like the Bomber Law that appear b4 him . .
He always get my hope up. Go into Code A . And then give outstanding performance as if going to advance.
Then he fail . . falls . .back to code B . . .
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On April 16 2014 21:17 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 16 2014 21:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
I just dont get it. His PL performance is at least Code S worthy. How the hell did he not advance out of this group.... Different preparation I guess, or bad day/week. A lot of players have flawless SPL performance while doing quite bad in Code S/A. Like who? I can only think of Ty but I think he will crush face now that he actually got past the qualifier.
Yet I wouldn't be surprised if SuperNova sends him to the loser match, where Choya would just cheese him twice, and back to Code B.
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On April 16 2014 21:05 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:04 DiMano wrote:On April 16 2014 21:02 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:02 FeyFey wrote:
Flash is cursed when it comes to Code S or something. But was a nice game. He hasn't accomplished much in foreign tournaments either. It's not just Code S last year he was in Top 16 every season top 16 isn't thattttt impressive compared to his hype
It's almost becoming NesTea hype at this point
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On April 16 2014 21:23 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 21:05 opterown wrote:On April 16 2014 21:04 DiMano wrote:On April 16 2014 21:02 sharkie wrote:On April 16 2014 21:02 FeyFey wrote:
Flash is cursed when it comes to Code S or something. But was a nice game. He hasn't accomplished much in foreign tournaments either. It's not just Code S last year he was in Top 16 every season top 16 isn't thattttt impressive compared to his hype It's almost becoming NesTea hype at this point
Qualifier brackets also haven´t been too hot.
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Idk, I guess Flash is under a lot of pressure to show results in individual league so he gets very nervous. I don't remember him getting supply blocked in his PL games but in the last game against Shine he had at least 3 pretty hard supply blocks.
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I feel that it is very hard to win macro game vs zerg nowadays. Too bad flash is gone for esport. Gsl will have less view than PL 
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