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On March 06 2014 18:59 Quateras wrote:
I'll never understand why so many Protosses run with all of their colossi back behind their nexus, while losing almost every single one for FREE, and then fight when they lost all of their army.
Instead of just taking the bad engagement, but at least have 4-5 colossi attack and not try to run away from vikings 1shotting for free.
It's a survival instinct based in fear :D
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 06 2014 19:01 aZealot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:00 Pandemona wrote:On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. When do Terran in base proxy you unless your in sub Diamond division? I haven't seen Maru in base proxy someone either. I have seen him proxy everywhere which again is why i thought a standard gateway scout if he was thinking something was up but an in base scout vs a Terran is plain weird to me. Maru does tend to cheese the second game of a series when he wins the first one, IIRC.
Yeah indeed, reason a gateway scout to maru's base on a 2 player map would of been justified justs found it weird he started that with a lap around his base.
If he proxied outside of his base and he scouted inside he would of looked silly xD
And im pretty sure proxy rax outside of your base happens 90% more in GM than in base ones...VS TERRAN xD
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On March 06 2014 19:00 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. People act like scouting base is something that takes huge micro and amazing decision making. It takes about 2 seconds to queue a worker to do a lap of your base. Yeah he went there directly, but he was probably going to put the next pylon there or something anyway (or just have a squiz)
Yeah, forgot about the Pylon. Heck, I put a second pylon down there in my games. And, if I remember correctly, he put a second pylon in a similar location on Heavy Rain. It means you see the Reaper coming in sooner.
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dammmit zest it's either you face planetaries which fights back or orbitals which flies away. why you do that? 
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2014 19:01 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:00 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:59 Fuell wrote:
zest overrated no. he lost to CJ man
Salty about my favorites winning eh
+ Show Spoiler +Let's be friends I'm cheering for Maru today
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On March 06 2014 19:01 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:58 liberate71 wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Morbidius wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 artosismermaid wrote:
pretty big upset? lol Best terran in the world winning is an upset. Ok wolf. Taeja won like 12 hours ago, and Mvp about 36 hours ago, pretty random to bring that up in this thread. Polt, Taeja, Bomber, Jajji, Innovation >>>>>> Maru.
Just trolling right?
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On March 06 2014 19:01 Garnet wrote:
Zest you better not play like this in PL.
Already did
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On March 06 2014 19:00 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. People act like scouting base is something that takes huge micro and amazing decision making. It takes about 2 seconds to queue a worker to do a lap of your base. Yeah he went there directly, but he was probably going to put the next pylon there or something anyway (or just have a squiz)
These people clearly need to play more team games where Protosses are constantly trying to build gates and Zergs are constantly trying to build hatches in your base, or Terrans are trying to build raxes outside and then float them in.
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On March 06 2014 19:02 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:01 opterown wrote:On March 06 2014 19:00 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:59 Fuell wrote:
zest overrated no. he lost to CJ man Salty about my favorites winning eh + Show Spoiler +Let's be friends I'm cheering for Maru today
sorry i was cheering for roro yesterday, we can never be friends
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On March 06 2014 19:01 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:01 Salient wrote:On March 06 2014 18:58 liberate71 wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Morbidius wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 artosismermaid wrote:
pretty big upset? lol Best terran in the world winning is an upset. Ok wolf. Taeja won like 12 hours ago, and Mvp about 36 hours ago, pretty random to bring that up in this thread. Polt, Taeja, Bomber, Jajji, Innovation >>>>>> Maru. bbyong > maru
I highly doubt, that Maru would let himself get eliminated by AbomB to be honest. No offense to AbomB, though, but Maru should just be to good.
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On March 06 2014 19:01 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:59 Ragnarork wrote:On March 06 2014 18:58 Ludwigvan wrote:
"plz defend the harrass and don't attack me" Haha, exactly this. Zest harass was like.... completely inefficient, and Maru didn't give a single fuck while steamrolling his army...  well... he did kill the 4th and scvs
Yeah - he just thought Maru would have to fall back.
Zest was worried that Maru might expand again - while stopping Zest from a 4th - and out-macro him like in game 1. Zest wanted to break the confine by hitting Maru hard at home. Maybe he forces Maru to pull back.
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On March 06 2014 19:00 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:57 Caihead wrote:
I don't understand Zest's decisions in the last 5 minutes. I think Zest did not expect Maru to move out at that time. His plans works if he trades his zealot for the planetary and he warps more zealot with his main army before Maru hits. The problem there was that his zealots haven't died yet so he was maxxed and couldn't warp in. It wasn't really a derp, just good timing by Maru.
Yep.
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On March 06 2014 19:00 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. When do Terran in base proxy you unless your in sub Diamond division? I haven't seen Maru in base proxy someone either. I have seen him proxy everywhere which again is why i thought a standard gateway scout if he was thinking something was up but an in base scout vs a Terran is plain weird to me.
still, the map was deadalus and the opponent maru. In that combination it is wise to scout your base, especially when you are down a game which is the situation many ppl will cheese you to get that quick 2:0.
If it was a sound issue we'll hear about it in the interviews.
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Come on Zest I bet on you making it out of this group. I bet on this TWICE.
Not that I actually want you to... so don't... but... do better before dying like a man.
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Idk I feel like Zest just couldn't keep up with Maru. Same thing happened in game 1, when Maru was putting pressure he was banking so many resources, in game 3 he couldn't properly respond on both fronts and Maru could.
This was not Zest from PL at all.
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On March 06 2014 19:01 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:58 liberate71 wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Morbidius wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 artosismermaid wrote:
pretty big upset? lol Best terran in the world winning is an upset. Ok wolf. Taeja won like 12 hours ago, and Mvp about 36 hours ago, pretty random to bring that up in this thread. Polt, Taeja, Bomber, Jajji, Innovation >>>>>> Maru.
hahahahhahh no
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On March 06 2014 19:00 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. When do Terran in base proxy you unless your in sub Diamond division? I haven't seen Maru in base proxy someone either. I have seen him proxy everywhere which again is why i thought a standard gateway scout if he was thinking something was up but an in base scout vs a Terran is plain weird to me.
Pandemona, it's Maru. He does cheese a lot in G2 if he wins, and checking the base is not a sick thing to do if you're playing someone who has or has had the reputation of being cheesy.
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On March 06 2014 19:01 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:00 vthree wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Caihead wrote:
I don't understand Zest's decisions in the last 5 minutes. I think Zest did not expect Maru to move out at that time. His plans works if he trades his zealot for the planetary and he warps more zealot with his main army before Maru hits. The problem there was that his zealots haven't died yet so he was maxxed and couldn't warp in. It wasn't really a derp, just good timing by Maru. HE SAW IT, he moved his zealots on the left side into the third BECAUSE HE SAW IT.
His mass zealot train was already on the way. It isn't like he could pull them back. He probably should have pulled back with his main army tho.
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On March 06 2014 19:01 Green_25 wrote:
This is why Protoss deathballs, if they split of their army they die.
Only against a Terran bioball with Stim and Medivacs. Otherwise, P core units are pretty strong especially with upgrades.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 06 2014 19:01 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:00 Pandemona wrote:On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. When do Terran in base proxy you unless your in sub Diamond division? I haven't seen Maru in base proxy someone either. I have seen him proxy everywhere which again is why i thought a standard gateway scout if he was thinking something was up but an in base scout vs a Terran is plain weird to me. Just think of it for what it is... he moved his probe about 3 inches in his base. Its one of the most basic things you could ever do. Different from sending a probe across the map and randomly finding a tech building in the corner somewhere.
Yeah im not saying it was hard or anything im just saying it was very strange to start to scout in base first before out of base vs a Terran. Hey if that was a PvP its natural to do it, vs a Terran its not. Reason i think he might of heard the crowd, idk just me being a bit to Maru bias i guess xD
On March 06 2014 19:03 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 19:00 Pandemona wrote:On March 06 2014 18:59 Wintex wrote:On March 06 2014 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Wow, so fucking good.
Also in my head that was a 2-0, i think he heard the crowd and randomly scouted his base, no other reason to scout base. If he thinks proxy he would of surely gateway scouted across the map....not in base first :S Except typical game sense and knowing who you are playing versus. Scouting bases is always good. When do Terran in base proxy you unless your in sub Diamond division? I haven't seen Maru in base proxy someone either. I have seen him proxy everywhere which again is why i thought a standard gateway scout if he was thinking something was up but an in base scout vs a Terran is plain weird to me. Pandemona, it's Maru. He does cheese a lot in G2 if he wins, and checking the base is not a sick thing to do if you're playing someone who has or has had the reputation of being cheesy.
When did i say it was a sick thing to do i don't get that. I might of miss strung my sentences together as it is am xD Im saying WHY did he scout his base first. No one in base proxies, unless your a Protoss in PvP or a in sub diamond league no? Or am i that out of touch with anything other than GSL/ProLeague ;_;
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