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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:55 GMT
#861
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Cause you could attack WoL Terrans. You can't attack a HotS Protoss, so like 50% of his old strats are gone.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:57 GMT
#862
(P)ToD and (Z)Ret are casting (Z)viOLet vs. (P)Socke
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:57 GMT
#863
On February 14 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Cause you could attack WoL Terrans. You can't attack a HotS Protoss, so like 50% of his old strats are gone.


No, you can definitely attack.

With lings.

Before 5 minutes.
AdministratorBreak the chains
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
February 13 2014 18:57 GMT
#864
On February 14 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Cause you could attack WoL Terrans. You can't attack a HotS Protoss, so like 50% of his old strats are gone.


This is actually pretty accurate. I think both him and violet were pretty similar in that they both were super super aggressive all the time. And now... well that's just not an option in zvp if you're looking for consistency
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 18:58 GMT
#865
On February 14 2014 03:57 mYiKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Cause you could attack WoL Terrans. You can't attack a HotS Protoss, so like 50% of his old strats are gone.


This is actually pretty accurate. I think both him and violet were pretty similar in that they both were super super aggressive all the time. And now... well that's just not an option in zvp if you're looking for consistency

Partially the reason that some zergs like Life have been having some ZvP trouble.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 13 2014 18:59 GMT
#866
On February 14 2014 03:54 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Me and Panda actually discussed this a lot at DH, and I think we mostly agreed that his training enviroment suffered with fOu/FXO. If you don't practise properly, no matter who you are, you'll eventually fall off. The difference from WoL to HotS was likely a combination of it being a new game and practise getting worse.

I hope he figures something out. I want to go back to proclaiming him the best baby Zerg. Can't stand Life!
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
February 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#867
oh god yeah, i love kaelaris in that role. much better than as a live commentator. tho he is not bad as that either.
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
February 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#868
On February 14 2014 03:58 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:57 mYiKane wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:55 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Cause you could attack WoL Terrans. You can't attack a HotS Protoss, so like 50% of his old strats are gone.


This is actually pretty accurate. I think both him and violet were pretty similar in that they both were super super aggressive all the time. And now... well that's just not an option in zvp if you're looking for consistency

Partially the reason that some zergs like Life have been having some ZvP trouble.


Almost all the zergs I talk to were having trouble vs protoss before this whole swarm host influx.

Even the zergs that were having good results said that zvp was a tough matchup for them.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#869
On February 14 2014 03:59 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:54 Zealously wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Me and Panda actually discussed this a lot at DH, and I think we mostly agreed that his training enviroment suffered with fOu/FXO. If you don't practise properly, no matter who you are, you'll eventually fall off. The difference from WoL to HotS was likely a combination of it being a new game and practise getting worse.

I hope he figures something out. I want to go back to proclaiming him the best baby Zerg. Can't stand Life!


I want Leenock to be great too but if you don't like Life you need to leave your computer immediately
AdministratorBreak the chains
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 19:00 GMT
#870
Kaelaris needs to get a haircut for season 4 right?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
February 13 2014 19:02 GMT
#871
All the talk doesnt matter, when Patience and Hyun get out to the Brackets i guess :D.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 13 2014 19:02 GMT
#872
Can someone update Liquipedia?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 19:02 GMT
#873
On February 14 2014 04:02 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
All the talk doesnt matter, when Patience and Hyun get out to the Brackets i guess :D.

If Leenock meets Hyun in the loser's final I could see that going either way.
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Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
February 13 2014 19:03 GMT
#874
Go Socke!
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 19:03 GMT
#875
On February 14 2014 04:02 NarutO wrote:
Can someone update Liquipedia?

It's updated as far as I could I thought? TT
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5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
February 13 2014 19:03 GMT
#876
go violet! for murica!
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 19:03 GMT
#877
On February 14 2014 04:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 04:02 NarutO wrote:
Can someone update Liquipedia?

It's updated as far as I could I thought? TT

Yup, its correct
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 13 2014 19:04 GMT
#878
grubbster (( so sad
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 13 2014 19:04 GMT
#879
On February 14 2014 04:00 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:59 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:54 Zealously wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Me and Panda actually discussed this a lot at DH, and I think we mostly agreed that his training enviroment suffered with fOu/FXO. If you don't practise properly, no matter who you are, you'll eventually fall off. The difference from WoL to HotS was likely a combination of it being a new game and practise getting worse.

I hope he figures something out. I want to go back to proclaiming him the best baby Zerg. Can't stand Life!


I want Leenock to be great too but if you don't like Life you need to leave your computer immediately

I actually do have to leave my computer immediately! Dammit I'm gonna miss a Tod+Ret cast.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 19:04 GMT
#880
On February 14 2014 04:03 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 04:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 14 2014 04:02 NarutO wrote:
Can someone update Liquipedia?

It's updated as far as I could I thought? TT

Yup, its correct

With the exception of the first two maps for Violet vs Hyun that was not on any stream.
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