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5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
February 13 2014 18:42 GMT
#841
and kaelaris fits very good in this position.
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 18:43 GMT
#842
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard
리노크 👑
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:44 GMT
#843
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 13 2014 18:44 GMT
#844
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

He should try 10 pool ?
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 18:45 GMT
#845
Kaelaris save me what were first two maps in Violet vs Hyun?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#846
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.


So 10pool to save time?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#847
On February 14 2014 03:44 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

He should try 10 pool ?


Nah, in Patience's case his weakness is Nydus.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#848
(P)Socke 2-0 (P)Grubby
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#849
(P)Tarrantius 2-0 (Z)Tefel

Choo choo
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#850
On February 14 2014 03:46 NovaMB wrote:
(P)Socke 2-0 (P)Grubby

Yeeeeeeahh
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 18:48:19
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#851
Tarrantius looked happy there .
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#852
If you missed it:

#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#853
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.
리노크 👑
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#854
HyuN (37)
25%

Grubby (37)
25%

Leenock (35)
24%

lol
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#855
On February 14 2014 03:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.


So 10pool to save time?


10 pool to save time.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#856
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard

As long as he consider SH's to be "shit" units, he won't go anywhere.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#857
On February 14 2014 03:47 DJHelium wrote:
If you missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKmTg1mI54


Le ToD is le IdioT
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#858
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 18:54 GMT
#859
On February 14 2014 03:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard

As long as he consider SH's to be "shit" units, he won't go anywhere.

?

He has never said he thinks SHs are bad units. He just thinks they are boring as hell and don't want to play that style. Leenock wants to set the pace of the game, attack to win. Not just endlessly defend until the protoss runs out of resources. I respect that and it's way more fun as a viewer + whenever he wins without swarm hosts it's way more satisfying.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:54 GMT
#860
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Me and Panda actually discussed this a lot at DH, and I think we mostly agreed that his training enviroment suffered with fOu/FXO. If you don't practise properly, no matter who you are, you'll eventually fall off. The difference from WoL to HotS was likely a combination of it being a new game and practise getting worse.
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