• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:40
CEST 05:40
KST 12:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)16ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo23Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Force Vitale: The Ultimate Boost Energy Solution 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) SC2 Planner - The StarCraft II Build Planner [TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9228 users

[IEM] Cologne Day 1 - Open Bracket - Page 43

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 41 42 43 44 45 64 Next
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
February 13 2014 18:42 GMT
#841
and kaelaris fits very good in this position.
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 18:43 GMT
#842
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard
리노크 👑
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:44 GMT
#843
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.
Moderator
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
February 13 2014 18:44 GMT
#844
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

He should try 10 pool ?
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 13 2014 18:45 GMT
#845
Kaelaris save me what were first two maps in Violet vs Hyun?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#846
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.


So 10pool to save time?
AdministratorBreak the chains
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#847
On February 14 2014 03:44 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

He should try 10 pool ?


Nah, in Patience's case his weakness is Nydus.
Moderator
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:46 GMT
#848
(P)Socke 2-0 (P)Grubby
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#849
(P)Tarrantius 2-0 (Z)Tefel

Choo choo
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#850
On February 14 2014 03:46 NovaMB wrote:
(P)Socke 2-0 (P)Grubby

Yeeeeeeahh
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 18:48:19
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#851
Tarrantius looked happy there .
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 13 2014 18:47 GMT
#852
If you missed it:

#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#853
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.
리노크 👑
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#854
HyuN (37)
25%

Grubby (37)
25%

Leenock (35)
24%

lol
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#855
On February 14 2014 03:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.


So 10pool to save time?


10 pool to save time.
Moderator
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#856
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard

As long as he consider SH's to be "shit" units, he won't go anywhere.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#857
On February 14 2014 03:47 DJHelium wrote:
If you missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKmTg1mI54


Le ToD is le IdioT
AdministratorBreak the chains
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 13 2014 18:51 GMT
#858
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 18:54 GMT
#859
On February 14 2014 03:51 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard

As long as he consider SH's to be "shit" units, he won't go anywhere.

?

He has never said he thinks SHs are bad units. He just thinks they are boring as hell and don't want to play that style. Leenock wants to set the pace of the game, attack to win. Not just endlessly defend until the protoss runs out of resources. I respect that and it's way more fun as a viewer + whenever he wins without swarm hosts it's way more satisfying.
리노크 👑
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2014 18:54 GMT
#860
On February 14 2014 03:51 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:44 stuchiu wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:38 Derez wrote:
Leenock so disappointing in HotS.

Leenock's ZvP so disappointing in HotS*

Honestly, almost all tournaments he has lost in has been due to ZvP.. It's just that they are everywhere now so it's hard


One could say being bad vsP is the same as being bad in HotS.

Yeah as it is now.

I think he needed change and that's what he has got now with YoeFW. FXO/fOu didn't do well for him in the second half of 2013. He will come back, figure things out and be a top zerg again. I believe in him, I know he can do it.

I just don't get how a zerg who survived all of WoL terran struggle so much to adapt -.-.


Me and Panda actually discussed this a lot at DH, and I think we mostly agreed that his training enviroment suffered with fOu/FXO. If you don't practise properly, no matter who you are, you'll eventually fall off. The difference from WoL to HotS was likely a combination of it being a new game and practise getting worse.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Prev 1 41 42 43 44 45 64 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft661
NeuroSwarm 221
ProTech143
Nina 126
RuFF_SC2 125
StateSC2 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4258
GuemChi 3208
Shuttle 720
Leta 126
NaDa 45
Noble 24
Terrorterran 23
Dota 2
capcasts297
League of Legends
JimRising 759
Counter-Strike
summit1g9951
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox549
Other Games
C9.Mang0982
Maynarde109
Trikslyr47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick870
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 131
• Mapu4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush804
• Lourlo689
• Stunt162
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 20m
The PondCast
1d 6h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.