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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 13 2014 13:25 GMT
#261
On February 13 2014 22:24 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:20 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:14 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:12 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:46 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:45 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:42 Dinotramp wrote:
It's a shame every tournament is so oversaturated with PvZ right now. I don't mind the matchup but it's too much of one thing in a short space of time. Even GomTvT got a bit dull despite TvT being a fantastic matchup. I really struggle to gather enthusiasm until the final bracket stages when it's just PvZ.


Will get better during Stage 2 where we will witness the magic that is jjakji.


True, it's wonderful seeing Jjakji play well again. He vanished after winning GSL.


Yeah and that was like over 2 years ago (GSL November 2011 iirc)?!

Yeah, the ancient times when Ensnare, Virus, July, NaDa and HuK were Code S mainstays.


Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been

Remember 2011 GSL October? So many good matches; Clide vs MMA, MMA vs Happy, GanZi vs SuperNova, Mvp vs MMA, Mvp vs Bomber. And also the TvZs; NesTea vs Mvp, SuperNova vs DRG, Leenock vs GanZi. It was just pure awesome.


October 2011 was an epitome of awesomeness, but the most epic moment of GSL for me personally was during 2012 S1 up&downs when Taeja helped BoxeR getting back into Code S by beating Cezanne

Cezanne still active on Jinair?

Correction: BoxeR beat Cezanne, TaeJa had to beat asd, while not advancing himself.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 13 2014 13:26 GMT
#262
On February 13 2014 22:24 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:23 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:21 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:20 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:19 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:14 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:12 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:46 Dinotramp wrote:
[quote]

True, it's wonderful seeing Jjakji play well again. He vanished after winning GSL.


Yeah and that was like over 2 years ago (GSL November 2011 iirc)?!

Yeah, the ancient times when Ensnare, Virus, July, NaDa and HuK were Code S mainstays.


Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been


Gotta agree, TvT best match up ever!!! 2014 - tough time for us, bro

TvT is the best mirror imho, for overall matchups, TvZ is my fave - so much action going on


Yeah just look at Soulkey vs Reality, such a sick game!! Action everywhere!!!

:D :D


WoL TvZ with Muta/ling/bane vs marine/tank was the best ZvT era


That is why jjakji vs Leenock is the best SC2 match of all time!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
February 13 2014 13:26 GMT
#263
Bro? Is MC now a German Protoss player?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1910 Posts
February 13 2014 13:26 GMT
#264
On February 13 2014 22:25 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:24 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:20 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:14 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:12 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:46 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:45 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:42 Dinotramp wrote:
It's a shame every tournament is so oversaturated with PvZ right now. I don't mind the matchup but it's too much of one thing in a short space of time. Even GomTvT got a bit dull despite TvT being a fantastic matchup. I really struggle to gather enthusiasm until the final bracket stages when it's just PvZ.


Will get better during Stage 2 where we will witness the magic that is jjakji.


True, it's wonderful seeing Jjakji play well again. He vanished after winning GSL.


Yeah and that was like over 2 years ago (GSL November 2011 iirc)?!

Yeah, the ancient times when Ensnare, Virus, July, NaDa and HuK were Code S mainstays.


Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been

Remember 2011 GSL October? So many good matches; Clide vs MMA, MMA vs Happy, GanZi vs SuperNova, Mvp vs MMA, Mvp vs Bomber. And also the TvZs; NesTea vs Mvp, SuperNova vs DRG, Leenock vs GanZi. It was just pure awesome.


October 2011 was an epitome of awesomeness, but the most epic moment of GSL for me personally was during 2012 S1 up&downs when Taeja helped BoxeR getting back into Code S by beating Cezanne

Cezanne still active on Jinair?

Correction: BoxeR beat Cezanne, TaeJa had to beat asd, while not advancing himself.


Ah thanks, sir, guess my mind mixed up something there
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 13 2014 13:27 GMT
#265
On February 13 2014 22:26 felisconcolori wrote:
Bro? Is MC now a German Protoss player?

Our assimilation of GSL champions is in fast progress atm
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 13 2014 13:27 GMT
#266
Best matches for me is like anytime Inno plays (and wins)
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 13 2014 13:27 GMT
#267
On February 13 2014 22:26 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:24 BlackCompany wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:23 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:21 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:20 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:19 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:14 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:12 Creager wrote:
[quote]

Yeah and that was like over 2 years ago (GSL November 2011 iirc)?!

Yeah, the ancient times when Ensnare, Virus, July, NaDa and HuK were Code S mainstays.


Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been


Gotta agree, TvT best match up ever!!! 2014 - tough time for us, bro

TvT is the best mirror imho, for overall matchups, TvZ is my fave - so much action going on


Yeah just look at Soulkey vs Reality, such a sick game!! Action everywhere!!!

:D :D


WoL TvZ with Muta/ling/bane vs marine/tank was the best ZvT era


That is why jjakji vs Leenock is the best SC2 match of all time!


MMA
Thats all i say!
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1910 Posts
February 13 2014 13:28 GMT
#268
MMA vs DRG probably was the very best SC2 match of all time.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#269
On February 13 2014 22:26 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:24 BlackCompany wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:23 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:21 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:20 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:19 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:14 Serinox wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:12 Creager wrote:
[quote]

Yeah and that was like over 2 years ago (GSL November 2011 iirc)?!

Yeah, the ancient times when Ensnare, Virus, July, NaDa and HuK were Code S mainstays.


Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been


Gotta agree, TvT best match up ever!!! 2014 - tough time for us, bro

TvT is the best mirror imho, for overall matchups, TvZ is my fave - so much action going on


Yeah just look at Soulkey vs Reality, such a sick game!! Action everywhere!!!

:D :D


WoL TvZ with Muta/ling/bane vs marine/tank was the best ZvT era


That is why jjakji vs Leenock is the best SC2 match of all time!

i might be wrong but wasn't seed vs mc the best sc2 match of all time?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#270
Now they only have to use the gameheart UI and I'm 100% happy
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#271
On February 13 2014 22:28 Creager wrote:
MMA vs DRG probably was the very best SC2 match of all time.


Gets my vote
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#272
Hey, could someone quickly summarize how Hasu beat San? Haven't seen any LR on this thread. (Also, don't tell Taeja)
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#273
On February 13 2014 22:29 vjcamarena wrote:
Hey, could someone quickly summarize how Hasu beat San? Haven't seen any LR on this thread. (Also, don't tell Taeja)


Nobody knows. ESL like not telling us anything.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 13 2014 13:29 GMT
#274
On February 13 2014 22:27 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:26 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:24 BlackCompany wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:23 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:21 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:20 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:19 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:14 Serinox wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, the ancient times when Ensnare, Virus, July, NaDa and HuK were Code S mainstays.


Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been


Gotta agree, TvT best match up ever!!! 2014 - tough time for us, bro

TvT is the best mirror imho, for overall matchups, TvZ is my fave - so much action going on


Yeah just look at Soulkey vs Reality, such a sick game!! Action everywhere!!!

:D :D


WoL TvZ with Muta/ling/bane vs marine/tank was the best ZvT era


That is why jjakji vs Leenock is the best SC2 match of all time!


MMA
Thats all i say!


MMA vs DongRaeGu was good, but not the same level of gameplay. A good second place!

On topic: nice play by Hasu so far, sneaky!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 13 2014 13:30 GMT
#275
On February 13 2014 22:17 MavivaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 21:59 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:55 MavivaM wrote:
On February 13 2014 21:53 Qwerty85 wrote:
MC is obviously better and more experienced player in tournaments but damn this feels so dirty.

Personally I think that MC is playing perfectly in this game. The opponent lacked that ounce of scouting and MC abused his opponent's lack for info perfectly.


I don't know exact gas costs (nor would it matter to me at plat/dia since players don't have perfect build execution) but I am sure that with DT gas cost reduction all of those builds like oracle, DT, blink gas costs are very close so it is really hard to know what is protoss going for, even if you know things like gas timings and costs.

Playing TvP in the early game feels like you hare playing blindfolded sometimes.

I was speaking according to a MC's perspective, obviously.
Actually I overall agree with you, but not being terran I can't understand if more scans to the opponent's base would help but terrans are too greedy to use them (and at high levels this has to be a given, due to very precise timings).
Gas timings can be tricky even when looking at a zerg, if you don't spot the proper buildings.
After all, there's a point in proxying/hiding buildings.


Well as you said, buildings can be proxied so scan doesn't guarantee you any info. And if you think you are facing aggression it is better to use the MULE for mineral boost. It is not really greedy play, it is just overall better thing to do in my opinion.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 13 2014 13:31 GMT
#276
Strange game :D
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
February 13 2014 13:31 GMT
#277
On February 13 2014 22:31 Mozdk wrote:
Strange game :D


What do you expect in PvP. It's pure mindgames.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 13 2014 13:31 GMT
#278
MMA vs DRG game 7 is the singlw greatest game. Jjakji vs Leenock is the better series gameplay wise storywise MMA vs drg again. Atleast in finals
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 13 2014 13:32 GMT
#279
On February 13 2014 22:29 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:27 BlackCompany wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:26 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:24 BlackCompany wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:23 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:21 DJHelium wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:20 Niko_Thien wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:19 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:17 Dinotramp wrote:
On February 13 2014 22:16 Creager wrote:
[quote]

Man those were good times, right? Tons of Terran in GSL, BoxeR still actively playing...



GomTvT was the most entertaining it's ever been


Gotta agree, TvT best match up ever!!! 2014 - tough time for us, bro

TvT is the best mirror imho, for overall matchups, TvZ is my fave - so much action going on


Yeah just look at Soulkey vs Reality, such a sick game!! Action everywhere!!!

:D :D


WoL TvZ with Muta/ling/bane vs marine/tank was the best ZvT era


That is why jjakji vs Leenock is the best SC2 match of all time!


MMA
Thats all i say!


MMA vs DongRaeGu was good, but not the same level of gameplay. A good second place!

On topic: nice play by Hasu so far, sneaky!


Haha, ah well i guess after all everybody got their favourite

Ye nicely done by Hasu, looking goodbut his nexus is late
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
February 13 2014 13:32 GMT
#280
On February 13 2014 22:29 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 22:29 vjcamarena wrote:
Hey, could someone quickly summarize how Hasu beat San? Haven't seen any LR on this thread. (Also, don't tell Taeja)


Nobody knows. ESL like not telling us anything.

Oh, they're pulling the old "it's a secret"? ESL at their finest haha.
Thanks anyway, Dinotramp!
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
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