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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 14 2013 17:45 GMT
#461
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 14 2013 17:45 GMT
#462
On December 15 2013 02:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:41 Squat wrote:
Somewhere TB is throwing his top hat in the air, with an ebullient exclamation of "HUZZAH!"


I kind of see TB as a jovial/evil circus director as well

I'm thinking like a male version of the circus director from the music video for The Memory Remains.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
December 14 2013 17:46 GMT
#463
On December 15 2013 02:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:41 Squat wrote:
Somewhere TB is throwing his top hat in the air, with an ebullient exclamation of "HUZZAH!"


I kind of see TB as a jovial/evil circus director as well


nah, he's sitting somewhere on a throne made of frozen protoss tears, stroking a white cat on his lap and muttering "good, good"

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 18:06:23
December 14 2013 17:46 GMT
#464
ATC Playoffs: Axiom vs Western Wolves

(T)Ryung vs (T)Sting
1-0


Map: Akilon Wastes


Ryung spawns in the top left
Sting spawns in the bottom right
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#465
Alpha Khaldor
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
December 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#466
Now watch Ryung play the best TvT of 2013 and make Khaldor look stupid
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#467
Dat Khaldor anti hype
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
December 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#468
On December 15 2013 02:45 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:43 Heartland wrote:
On December 15 2013 02:41 Squat wrote:
Somewhere TB is throwing his top hat in the air, with an ebullient exclamation of "HUZZAH!"


I kind of see TB as a jovial/evil circus director as well

I'm thinking like a male version of the circus director from the music video for The Memory Remains.


No idea. But just basically the villain of any historically set musical.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 18:06:33
December 14 2013 17:50 GMT
#469
On December 15 2013 02:46 The_Templar wrote:
ATC Playoffs: Axiom vs Western Wolves

(T)Ryung vs (T)Sting
1-0


Map: Akilon Wastes


Ryung spawns in the top left
Sting spawns in the bottom right

1:00
Ryung going gas before barracks.
Sting going barracks first followed by a refinery.

2:00
Factory for Ryung.
Sting scouting the main of Ryung.

3:00
Both players getting marines.
Factory for Sting.
Both players getting a second refinery.

4:00
Starport for Ryung.
Tech lab on Ryung's factory.
Sing also getting a starport and a tech lab.

5:00
Ryung getting a raven.
Cloak started and cancelled for Ryung.
Sting also getting a raven.
Sting building a command center.
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TL+ Member
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 14 2013 17:50 GMT
#470
On December 15 2013 02:47 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:45 Squat wrote:
On December 15 2013 02:43 Heartland wrote:
On December 15 2013 02:41 Squat wrote:
Somewhere TB is throwing his top hat in the air, with an ebullient exclamation of "HUZZAH!"


I kind of see TB as a jovial/evil circus director as well

I'm thinking like a male version of the circus director from the music video for The Memory Remains.


No idea. But just basically the villain of any historically set musical.

Dude that video is amazing.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#471
Haha wow Liquid getting dominated by MMA... again.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 14 2013 17:53 GMT
#472
On December 15 2013 02:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:46 The_Templar wrote:
ATC Playoffs: Axiom vs Western Wolves

(T)Ryung vs (T)Sting
0-0


Map: Akilon Wastes


Ryung spawns in the top left
Sting spawns in the bottom right

1:00
Ryung going gas before barracks.
Sting going barracks first followed by a refinery.

2:00
Factory for Ryung.
Sting scouting the main of Ryung.

3:00
Both players getting marines.
Factory for Sting.
Both players getting a second refinery.

4:00
Starport for Ryung.
Tech lab on Ryung's factory.
Sing also getting a starport and a tech lab.

5:00
Ryung getting a raven.
Cloak started and cancelled for Ryung.
Sting also getting a raven.
Sting building a command center.

6:00 (T)Ryung 40 vs (T)Sting 41
Ryung getting a command center.
Ryung getting tanks.
Both players getting vikings.

7:00 (T)Ryung 51 vs (T)Sting 50
Sting has a widow mine and a two worker lead.
Ryung moving outside his main base.

8:00 (T)Ryung 60 vs (T)Sting 59
Ryung has a tank advantage.
Both players securing his natural.
Sting gets supply blocked but has a 4 worker lead.
Ryung moving out.

9:00 (T)Ryung 69 vs (T)Sting 67
Ryung moving into the natural and seeker missiling the tank.
Ryung kills all the tanks but loses his marines and Sting threatens to kill the tanks with landed vikings.

10:00 (T)Ryung 60 vs (T)Sting 66
Third CC for Ryung.
Sting getting stim.
Two more factories for Ryung.
Two vikings moving around the map and finding a viking.
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TL+ Member
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
December 14 2013 17:54 GMT
#473
Is the TakeTV stream down???
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2013 17:55 GMT
#474
I'm curious.

Poll: What is harder to defend?

Slowvacs with no MSC (8)
 
80%

Turbovacs with a MSC (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: What is harder to defend?

(Vote): Turbovacs with a MSC
(Vote): Slowvacs with no MSC



Moderator
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 14 2013 17:56 GMT
#475
On December 15 2013 02:55 stuchiu wrote:
I'm curious.

Poll: What is harder to defend?

Slowvacs with no MSC (8)
 
80%

Turbovacs with a MSC (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: What is harder to defend?

(Vote): Turbovacs with a MSC
(Vote): Slowvacs with no MSC




Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the MSC changed the way that early-game played in PvT because Protoss could be a bit more greedy and still be safe if they had it up with some energy.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 14 2013 17:57 GMT
#476
On December 15 2013 02:53 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:50 The_Templar wrote:
On December 15 2013 02:46 The_Templar wrote:
ATC Playoffs: Axiom vs Western Wolves

(T)Ryung vs (T)Sting
0-0


Map: Akilon Wastes


Ryung spawns in the top left
Sting spawns in the bottom right

1:00
Ryung going gas before barracks.
Sting going barracks first followed by a refinery.

2:00
Factory for Ryung.
Sting scouting the main of Ryung.

3:00
Both players getting marines.
Factory for Sting.
Both players getting a second refinery.

4:00
Starport for Ryung.
Tech lab on Ryung's factory.
Sing also getting a starport and a tech lab.

5:00
Ryung getting a raven.
Cloak started and cancelled for Ryung.
Sting also getting a raven.
Sting building a command center.

6:00 (T)Ryung 40 vs (T)Sting 41
Ryung getting a command center.
Ryung getting tanks.
Both players getting vikings.

7:00 (T)Ryung 51 vs (T)Sting 50
Sting has a widow mine and a two worker lead.
Ryung moving outside his main base.

8:00 (T)Ryung 60 vs (T)Sting 59
Ryung has a tank advantage.
Both players securing his natural.
Sting gets supply blocked but has a 4 worker lead.
Ryung moving out.

9:00 (T)Ryung 69 vs (T)Sting 67
Ryung moving into the natural and seeker missiling the tank.
Ryung kills all the tanks but loses his marines and Sting threatens to kill the tanks with landed vikings.

10:00 (T)Ryung 60 vs (T)Sting 66
Third CC for Ryung.
Sting getting stim.
Two more factories for Ryung.
Two vikings moving around the map and finding a viking.

11:00 (T)Ryung 74 vs (T)Sting 78
Another factory for Sting.
Sting doing a drop in the natural which forces SCVs to leave the worker line.

12:00 (T)Ryung 78 vs (T)Sting 86
Marine drop for Ryung does some damage in the main base.
Blue flame for Ryung.
Ryung loses the medivac to vikings.

13:00 (T)Ryung 84 vs (T)Sting 110
Sting pushing out with a tank/marine force.
Lots of hellions for Ryung.
Sting moving into the third which isn't landed.
Sting moves right into seige tank and missile turret range.

14:00 (T)Ryung 108 vs (T)Sting 111
+1 vehicle weapons for Ryung.
Ryung taking his third base.
Hellions moving around the map.

15:00 (T)Ryung 124 vs (T)Sting 132
Third CC for Sting.
Ryung loses hellions to an army moving out.
Sensor tower for Ryung.
Sting not really being aggressive, taking his third.
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TL+ Member
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 14 2013 17:57 GMT
#477
most of the time its zealots and ht fending of the drops so I dont feel the boost does all that much in most situations. If there are alot of blink stalkers on the map then dropping is very risky even with boost
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 14 2013 17:59 GMT
#478
On December 15 2013 02:56 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:55 stuchiu wrote:
I'm curious.

Poll: What is harder to defend?

Slowvacs with no MSC (8)
 
80%

Turbovacs with a MSC (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: What is harder to defend?

(Vote): Turbovacs with a MSC
(Vote): Slowvacs with no MSC




Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the MSC changed the way that early-game played in PvT because Protoss could be a bit more greedy and still be safe if they had it up with some energy.


It changes both early and mid-game. Before Protoss was taking early economic damage which made it harder to deal with slowvacs later on.

Now Protoss don't taking any damage from the early game making them super strong against medivacs. With the MSC it also means they can defend two areas from drops with the nexus cannon and leave the army in a third location.

Of course turbovacs are super fast.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#479
MMA haha
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 14 2013 18:01 GMT
#480
On December 15 2013 02:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 02:53 The_Templar wrote:
On December 15 2013 02:50 The_Templar wrote:
On December 15 2013 02:46 The_Templar wrote:
ATC Playoffs: Axiom vs Western Wolves

(T)Ryung vs (T)Sting
0-0


Map: Akilon Wastes


Ryung spawns in the top left
Sting spawns in the bottom right

1:00
Ryung going gas before barracks.
Sting going barracks first followed by a refinery.

2:00
Factory for Ryung.
Sting scouting the main of Ryung.

3:00
Both players getting marines.
Factory for Sting.
Both players getting a second refinery.

4:00
Starport for Ryung.
Tech lab on Ryung's factory.
Sing also getting a starport and a tech lab.

5:00
Ryung getting a raven.
Cloak started and cancelled for Ryung.
Sting also getting a raven.
Sting building a command center.

6:00 (T)Ryung 40 vs (T)Sting 41
Ryung getting a command center.
Ryung getting tanks.
Both players getting vikings.

7:00 (T)Ryung 51 vs (T)Sting 50
Sting has a widow mine and a two worker lead.
Ryung moving outside his main base.

8:00 (T)Ryung 60 vs (T)Sting 59
Ryung has a tank advantage.
Both players securing his natural.
Sting gets supply blocked but has a 4 worker lead.
Ryung moving out.

9:00 (T)Ryung 69 vs (T)Sting 67
Ryung moving into the natural and seeker missiling the tank.
Ryung kills all the tanks but loses his marines and Sting threatens to kill the tanks with landed vikings.

10:00 (T)Ryung 60 vs (T)Sting 66
Third CC for Ryung.
Sting getting stim.
Two more factories for Ryung.
Two vikings moving around the map and finding a viking.

11:00 (T)Ryung 74 vs (T)Sting 78
Another factory for Sting.
Sting doing a drop in the natural which forces SCVs to leave the worker line.

12:00 (T)Ryung 78 vs (T)Sting 86
Marine drop for Ryung does some damage in the main base.
Blue flame for Ryung.
Ryung loses the medivac to vikings.

13:00 (T)Ryung 84 vs (T)Sting 110
Sting pushing out with a tank/marine force.
Lots of hellions for Ryung.
Sting moving into the third which isn't landed.
Sting moves right into seige tank and missile turret range.

14:00 (T)Ryung 108 vs (T)Sting 111
+1 vehicle weapons for Ryung.
Ryung taking his third base.
Hellions moving around the map.

15:00 (T)Ryung 124 vs (T)Sting 132
Third CC for Sting.
Ryung loses hellions to an army moving out.
Sensor tower for Ryung.
Sting not really being aggressive, taking his third.

16:00 (T)Ryung 162 vs (T)Sting 162
Sting moving out.
Fourth CC and hellbats for Ryung as well as medivacs.
Armory for Sting.
+2 vehicle weapons started for Ryung.

17:00 (T)Ryung 176 vs (T)Sting 184
+1 vehicle armor for Ryung.
Ryung moving out with a hellbat-medivac.

18:00 (T)Ryung 176 vs (T)Sting 185
Sting tries to break the third but backs off quickly.
Two more command centers for Sting.
Ryung taking his fourth base and getting thors.
Sting doing a push+drop.

19:00 (T)Ryung 183 vs (T)Sting 177
Lots of bio walks up to the cliff and dies.
Sting can't even kill the 4th base, so he backs off.
Ryung harassing with hellbats.

20:00 (T)Ryung 191 vs (T)Sting 141
Sting trying to be aggressive still.
PF at the fourth base for Sting.
Banshees for Ryung.
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