On October 16 2013 20:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Imagine if zergs had better macro. Jesus thats a scary thought considering this game is pretty one sided as it is

Sleep* . And with so late mutalisks and such a bad macro he would die to any push around 11 minutes Flash like. He got pretty lucky Fantasy chose to stay passive.

Yello

Germany7411 Posts

October 16 2013 11:10 GMT

#285

Sleep is perfectly abusing Fantasy's opening/build. His micro is not that impressive but good multitasking, good defense and really good decision making (when to take additional bases, when to build drones, when to attack with his mutas) won him the game

Zerg.Zilla

Hungary5029 Posts

October 16 2013 11:11 GMT

#286

C'mon Fantasy bring this shit back :/

VmY

Netherlands1286 Posts

October 16 2013 11:11 GMT

#287

Fantasy please ;;

Insoleet

France1806 Posts

October 16 2013 11:11 GMT

#288

On October 16 2013 20:09 DusTerr wrote:
I missed the very beginning, what did fantasy do wrong to allow so many mutas?

He committed on a base defended with ling / banes / spines instead of dropping when there were no muta.

Actually I wonder why terrans dont start to add tanks to fight those spines-defended base.

Big J

Austria16289 Posts

October 16 2013 11:12 GMT

#289

On October 16 2013 20:10 Swiipii wrote:

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Sleep* . And with so late mutalisks and such a bad macro he would die to any push around 11 minutes Flash like. He got pretty lucky Fantasy chose to stay passive.

Unless you mean a 2base push (which couldn't come because sleep scouted the 3rd CC), I don't think Sleep would have struggled against that.

juvenal

2448 Posts

October 16 2013 11:12 GMT

#290

Don't you worry guys, fanta will win with funny early attacks now that he's seen TvZ late game.

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

October 16 2013 11:12 GMT

#291

On October 16 2013 20:10 Ghanburighan wrote:

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I read that as irony. I hope I'm right.

what do you think /s means ;o

Heartland

Sweden24593 Posts

October 16 2013 11:13 GMT

#292

Need moar terrorism.

Lunareste

United States3596 Posts

October 16 2013 11:13 GMT

#293

On October 16 2013 20:11 Insoleet wrote:

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He committed on a base defended with ling / banes / spines instead of dropping when there were no muta.

Actually I wonder why terrans dont start to add tanks to fight those spines-defended base.

Siege Tanks are too gas intensive. Hard to choose tanks over speedvacs.

Fjodorov

5007 Posts

October 16 2013 11:14 GMT

#294

I think terrans need to figure out some all in builds. Zergs know exactly what the terran will do every game. Macro macro macro. Are there no hellion/hellbat marauder builds or whatever. Just something to atleast make the zerg wonder a little bit

edit: that speed overlord scouting kinda ruins that idea though...

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

October 16 2013 11:15 GMT

#295

Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs Sleep game 1 ?

★★★- Good game (7)

70%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)

10%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)

10%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)

10%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)

0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Sleep game 1 ?

(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

As op went afk xd

artrea

Latvia3560 Posts

October 16 2013 11:18 GMT

#296

Isn't Fantasy being a bit too passive?

DJHelium

Sweden13480 Posts

October 16 2013 11:20 GMT

#297

On October 16 2013 20:14 Fjodorov wrote:
I think terrans need to figure out some all in builds. Zergs know exactly what the terran will do every game. Macro macro macro. Are there no hellion/hellbat marauder builds or whatever. Just something to atleast make the zerg wonder a little bit

I've seen some 4 hellion 4 hellbat attacks on korean streams, works well when unscouted. Problem is that it's so hard to prevent scouting. Very strong against non-roach defense.

Another nice build is MMA's double medivac stim drop. Goes for 4 hellions, swap factory onto another barrack, build viking (to clear path) and two medivacs. Moves out with like 10-12 stim marines and a coule of WM, while attacking drones at the third with the hellions.

But the big problem is that these builds are kind of easy to counter if you see them coming, where the Innovaiton style 4M just is solid.