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XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
July 28 2013 03:46 GMT
#381
I think Jangbi might be the next big protoss. Had a misstep in Code S but easily re qualified for season 2 and crushed his WCG groups. He didn't drop a map in either Code A or WCG...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 28 2013 03:46 GMT
#382
Jangbi looks good for sure, interested to see him going forwards.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 28 2013 03:47 GMT
#383
On July 28 2013 12:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
Jangbi looks good for sure, interested to see him going forwards.


Jangbi to me is a HerO who always plays at his best.

WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 28 2013 03:48 GMT
#384
On July 28 2013 12:43 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:39 Havik_ wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:37 Bagration wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:30 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:29 Waxangel wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:26 Dodgin wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:23 Havik_ wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:19 TAMinator wrote:
Dissapointing viewer numbers


Its PvP and PvZ. Neither are crowd favorites.


TIL hero is not a crowd favorite with his 500 page 900,000 views fan club


HerO is like mila kunis

a desirable and popular part of your cast but I don't think you're going to make much money on a movie when she's your primary star

That is only because he hasnt looked like one of the best in the world lately. If he was suddenly on soulkey/innovation level he would draw far more viewers than them. He has in the past drawn more than this on his own.

He really has been top tier of late, top 5 Protoss perhaps in recent form alone, and definitely one of the most entertaining playstyle wise.


I don't think he's top 5 quite yet. Getting close though, but something seems to be missing.




If he was consistent and played like he's been playing this weekend all the time, then yeah he's top 5, but overall I wouldn't even give him top 10. He's very overrated.


To be fair though I don't think you can call someone who can consistantly beat even the absolute best players in Starcraft 2(Soulkey, Flash, Roro come to mind), the Ace of EG-TL and a two-time Dreamhack Champion overrated.

Maybe just super hyped, but not overrated. He definitely has the skill even if he doesn't show it all the time, which I think he mainly does now and inconsistencies are rare.

Hyped but not overrated sums it up quite well, if you look at his achievements and peaks of play. Number 8 in prizemoney apparently now, not too shabby
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 03:49:05
July 28 2013 03:48 GMT
#385
On July 28 2013 12:45 VisonKai wrote:
Players don't fall down quickly enough in Aligulac. I mean, as an ST fan, even I have to admit that having Life at your 2nd highest rating spot might not be quite accurate.


that's because they will only introduce time based decay once it becomes completely obvious they need it to salvage their damaged reputation, and even then it will be too late

kind of like the catholic church's relationship with actually doing something about child abusing priests

yes it's bad analogy day
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 28 2013 03:49 GMT
#386
On July 28 2013 12:48 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:45 VisonKai wrote:
Players don't fall down quickly enough in Aligulac. I mean, as an ST fan, even I have to admit that having Life at your 2nd highest rating spot might not be quite accurate.


that's because they will only introduce time based decay once it becomes completely obvious they need it to salvage their damaged reputation, and even then it will be too late

kind of like the catholic church's relationship with actually doing something about child abusing priests

eh. damaged reputation. could be worse. could be TLPD
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 28 2013 03:49 GMT
#387
On July 28 2013 12:46 Waxangel wrote:
i kinda stopped watching movies regularly since I left college else I'd be able to make better bad analogies

Eh, no on watches movies any more. Just reference Breaking Bad and Madmen and you should have unlimited sources to draw from. Someone is the Don Draper of Starcraft 2.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 28 2013 03:49 GMT
#388
could be TLPD not updated for 7 months at the end of WOL
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 28 2013 03:49 GMT
#389
On July 28 2013 12:47 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
Jangbi looks good for sure, interested to see him going forwards.


Jangbi to me is a HerO who always plays at his best.


HerO did win a very late game PvP against Jangbi in their last meeting on proleague.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 28 2013 03:50 GMT
#390
On July 28 2013 12:45 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:43 stuchiu wrote:
Hero 1-1 Oz.


Sick Live reports by stuchio!

Next post: Hero: ?-? Oz

Please add to OP, November!


Game 1 Hero vs Oz.

Oz goes for a double gate into stargate opener. Hero goes for triple gate aggression and proxies pylons far ahead. Oz tries to kill one and they battle with Hero losing his MSC and Oz losing his sentry. This lets Hero just bumrush into Oz's main and Oz tries to hold while his oracle dose damage, but 7 stalkers do more damage than just 1 oracle and he wins. Hero takes game 1.

Game 2 Hero vs Oz

Same builds, but Oz keeps his sentries alive. They do a lot of juking with Hero contianing Oz on 1 base and Oz teching to Robo to get 1 warp prism out to pressure with 4 zealots. The warp prism dies, and the 4 zealots are stopped. Hero expands and Oz gets another warp prism to break the contain and get his own nexus. Both players macro up to their comps. Hero gets void ray immortal and later archons while Oz gets a small group of blink stalkers to presure while going archon immoratls. Both get thirds, but Oz gets more damage done with his stalkers as he brings it lower. Oz runs around Hero with his stalkers forcing Hero's entire army to ambush them. This lets 2 archons 2 immortal 2 sentries to snipe rHero's third. Hero tries to bust Oz with his army, but his MSC dies to a feedback and he gets surrounded and dies. Oz takes game 2.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33511 Posts
July 28 2013 03:50 GMT
#391
On July 28 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote:
could be TLPD not updated for 7 months at the end of WOL


I was in a coma between November of 2012 and March of 2013, I couldn't say
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 03:51:41
July 28 2013 03:51 GMT
#392
On July 28 2013 12:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:48 Waxangel wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:45 VisonKai wrote:
Players don't fall down quickly enough in Aligulac. I mean, as an ST fan, even I have to admit that having Life at your 2nd highest rating spot might not be quite accurate.


that's because they will only introduce time based decay once it becomes completely obvious they need it to salvage their damaged reputation, and even then it will be too late

kind of like the catholic church's relationship with actually doing something about child abusing priests

eh. damaged reputation. could be worse. could be TLPD


Oh god HAHAHAHAHA

Aligulac really found the perfect niche of a market with how lacking TLPD was. Doesn't it not even update all its games due to lack of contributors, as well as some other stuff.

Ready guys for the best player in the world according to TLPD?
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyun



On July 28 2013 12:50 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote:
could be TLPD not updated for 7 months at the end of WOL


I was in a coma between November of 2012 and March of 2013, I couldn't say


Sex Coma
DAT REFERENCE
WHERES DODGIN AT
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 28 2013 03:52 GMT
#393
On July 28 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote:
could be TLPD not updated for 7 months at the end of WOL

All those zergs just started to look the same.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
July 28 2013 03:53 GMT
#394
On July 28 2013 12:48 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:45 VisonKai wrote:
Players don't fall down quickly enough in Aligulac. I mean, as an ST fan, even I have to admit that having Life at your 2nd highest rating spot might not be quite accurate.


that's because they will only introduce time based decay once it becomes completely obvious they need it to salvage their damaged reputation, and even then it will be too late

kind of like the catholic church's relationship with actually doing something about child abusing priests

yes it's bad analogy day


I have read this 3 times and I still do not get it. I feel stupid.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 03:54:20
July 28 2013 03:53 GMT
#395
On July 28 2013 12:51 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:48 Waxangel wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:45 VisonKai wrote:
Players don't fall down quickly enough in Aligulac. I mean, as an ST fan, even I have to admit that having Life at your 2nd highest rating spot might not be quite accurate.


that's because they will only introduce time based decay once it becomes completely obvious they need it to salvage their damaged reputation, and even then it will be too late

kind of like the catholic church's relationship with actually doing something about child abusing priests

eh. damaged reputation. could be worse. could be TLPD


Oh god HAHAHAHAHA

Aligulac really found the perfect niche of a market with how lacking TLPD was. Doesn't it not even update all its games due to lack of contributors, as well as some other stuff.

Ready guys for the best player in the world according to TLPD?
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyun



Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:50 Waxangel wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:49 Dodgin wrote:
could be TLPD not updated for 7 months at the end of WOL


I was in a coma between November of 2012 and March of 2013, I couldn't say


Sex Coma
DAT REFERENCE
WHERES DODGIN AT


Aligulac has the same problem with Koreans who mass stomp Europeans. They can mitigate it better than TLPD, but the "San Problem" can't really be solved in an elegant way :/
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 28 2013 03:53 GMT
#396
Hallucinated Collusus's are always so cool and makes so much sense, considering you don't even use all sentry energy anyway, really can trick your opponent and win you games or force your opponent back so you gain time.

Such great games in IEM by the way. Sad we didn't see more high caliber players.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
July 28 2013 03:54 GMT
#397
Is Ade the observer? can't be, this observer is slow ass hell.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33511 Posts
July 28 2013 03:54 GMT
#398
On July 28 2013 12:53 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 12:48 Waxangel wrote:
On July 28 2013 12:45 VisonKai wrote:
Players don't fall down quickly enough in Aligulac. I mean, as an ST fan, even I have to admit that having Life at your 2nd highest rating spot might not be quite accurate.


that's because they will only introduce time based decay once it becomes completely obvious they need it to salvage their damaged reputation, and even then it will be too late

kind of like the catholic church's relationship with actually doing something about child abusing priests

yes it's bad analogy day


I have read this 3 times and I still do not get it. I feel stupid.


I did say itw as a bad analogy
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 28 2013 03:55 GMT
#399
Holy crap, Tempest, I forgot protoss had that unit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 03:56:19
July 28 2013 03:55 GMT
#400
On July 28 2013 12:55 Plansix wrote:
Holy crap, Tempest, I forgot protoss had that unit.

That another word for storm?

Arararrrrr
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
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