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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 02:32 GMT
#41
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games

Marineking on a sick 3 game win streak in tvt if you count online matches
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 23 2013 02:33 GMT
#42
On July 23 2013 11:27 stuchiu wrote:
Dream has a better chance against an alliance of Rain, First, Life and Roro than he does against Fantasy.

I disagree Fantasy plays very harassment focused and so does Dream, and those kinds of games can easily turn to one side or the other, with the most important thing being the builds they chose.

Not that he necessarily has the advantage, although I think he does, but it's no where near certain and Fantasy isn't a God, hasn't been, has struggled regularly against ESF players, and most importantly plays a very very relatively flimsy style which matches up well for Dream in this case.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 23 2013 02:33 GMT
#43
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.
Moderator
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 23 2013 02:34 GMT
#44
On July 23 2013 11:33 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:27 stuchiu wrote:
Dream has a better chance against an alliance of Rain, First, Life and Roro than he does against Fantasy.

I disagree Fantasy plays very harassment focused and so does Dream, and those kinds of games can easily turn to one side or the other, with the most important thing being the builds they chose.

Not that he necessarily has the advantage, although I think he does, but it's no where near certain and Fantasy isn't a God, hasn't been, has struggled regularly against ESF players, and most importantly plays a very very relatively flimsy style which matches up well for Dream in this case.


I hope you're right.
Moderator
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 23 2013 02:35 GMT
#45
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.


Hahaha miraculously that does add up
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 23 2013 02:36 GMT
#46
On July 23 2013 11:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
They should swap it for Dream vs Bbyong and Marineking vs Fantasy. Would probably be better games

That would be awful, Marine King would get crushed and Dream Bbyong would be a bad series.

Fantasy>Dream>Marineking in my opinion, I don't watch enough Bbyong though to honestly make a judgement where he would go.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 23 2013 02:38 GMT
#47
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.

Hahahahaha that's funny.

Going to go check these supposedly awful TvT stats, I will be so confused if they are accurate
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 23 2013 02:38 GMT
#48
On July 23 2013 11:36 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
They should swap it for Dream vs Bbyong and Marineking vs Fantasy. Would probably be better games

That would be awful, Marine King would get crushed and Dream Bbyong would be a bad series.

Fantasy>Dream>Marineking in my opinion, I don't watch enough Bbyong though to honestly make a judgement where he would go.


Bbyong is modern day Ensnare/Virus.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 23 2013 02:40 GMT
#49
On July 23 2013 11:38 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.

Hahahahaha that's funny.

Going to go check these supposedly awful TvT stats, I will be so confused if they are accurate


Oh my they are legit.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 23 2013 02:40 GMT
#50
On July 23 2013 11:38 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:36 Pandain wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
They should swap it for Dream vs Bbyong and Marineking vs Fantasy. Would probably be better games

That would be awful, Marine King would get crushed and Dream Bbyong would be a bad series.

Fantasy>Dream>Marineking in my opinion, I don't watch enough Bbyong though to honestly make a judgement where he would go.


Bbyong is modern day Ensnare/Virus.


Bbyong has really good, maybe even incredible micro, but his game sense is a lump of coal. He's been floating around Code S for a while but he never gets sent out in Proleague.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 02:41 GMT
#51
On July 23 2013 11:38 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.

Hahahahaha that's funny.

Going to go check these supposedly awful TvT stats, I will be so confused if they are accurate

If you count offline and online from Aligulac
Dream = 46%
FanTaSy = 36%
Bbyong = 28%
MarineKing = 43%
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TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 23 2013 02:42 GMT
#52
On July 23 2013 11:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:38 Pandain wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.

Hahahahaha that's funny.

Going to go check these supposedly awful TvT stats, I will be so confused if they are accurate

If you count offline and online from Aligulac
Dream = 46%
FanTaSy = 36%
Bbyong = 28%
MarineKing = 43%


Better I guess but those are still abysmal stats for potential Code S players
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 23 2013 02:45 GMT
#53
On July 23 2013 11:42 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:38 Pandain wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.

Hahahahaha that's funny.

Going to go check these supposedly awful TvT stats, I will be so confused if they are accurate

If you count offline and online from Aligulac
Dream = 46%
FanTaSy = 36%
Bbyong = 28%
MarineKing = 43%


Better I guess but those are still abysmal stats for potential Code S players

Ensnare x4. He will always be there
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
July 23 2013 02:50 GMT
#54
On July 23 2013 11:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:42 lichter wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:38 Pandain wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:33 stuchiu wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Out of the 4 players playing TvT today, Fantasy has the highest TvT winrate at 41%. Bbyong is 2nd at 23%. Dream is third at 20%. MKP is last with a 16% winrate in TvT.

What

the

fuck

I guess we will either have incredibly bad games or incredibly funny games


If only they could fusion dance and combine their TvT winrate to 100%.

Hahahahaha that's funny.

Going to go check these supposedly awful TvT stats, I will be so confused if they are accurate

If you count offline and online from Aligulac
Dream = 46%
FanTaSy = 36%
Bbyong = 28%
MarineKing = 43%


Better I guess but those are still abysmal stats for potential Code S players

Ensnare x4. He will always be there

In spirit and...in snare.
jjakji fan
InfamousOne
Profile Joined April 2013
United States110 Posts
July 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#55
stream not up yet?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 23 2013 03:03 GMT
#56
On July 23 2013 12:02 InfamousOne wrote:
stream not up yet?


starts in 1 hour
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 23 2013 03:03 GMT
#57
On July 23 2013 12:02 InfamousOne wrote:
stream not up yet?


57 min from the time of this post
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InfamousOne
Profile Joined April 2013
United States110 Posts
July 23 2013 03:07 GMT
#58
ohh its at 12 EST ?? lame...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 23 2013 03:14 GMT
#59
On July 23 2013 12:07 InfamousOne wrote:
ohh its at 12 EST ?? lame...


TL.net has a calendar with start times yo
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
July 23 2013 03:21 GMT
#60
I hope Leenock is on top of his game, micro-beast that he is.
Big water
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