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On June 09 2013 17:01 massivez wrote: Btw is winning this bigger then winning wcs korea/Code S?
Money wise yes, but going through Code S is way harder IMO. Code S is and always will be the prime competition in my eyes (OGN also obv)
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On June 09 2013 16:58 Sissors wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:57 SiroKO wrote: These commentators are utter scrubs compared to sOs. They should tone down their arrogance for a second and figure out why sOs didn't play according to their diamond/master league scheme. Yeah surely sOs had a really good reason to throw all his stalkers away after he pretty much won, who are we to consider that a bad idea...
He hadn't pretty much won. He would only have pretty much won if he did NOT throw away the stalkers and ended the game there. He did not have an expansion or anything else other than gateway tech if the attack would be thwarted cuz that stargate was goin down if he was pushed back. It was either fully commit to the attack or play catch up. He played catch up while throwing away the army lead he had which was the only part of the game he was leading.
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On June 09 2013 17:01 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon It'll be cool if they nerf bio, maybe people'd go mech again. I can't believe s0s' decision making there to run into a bunker and mines.
And what do you want to nerf exactly ? If you nerf bio it would be auto loss against toss because mech just does not cut it.
I think it would be better to change some things about protoss and leave the other races where they are because protoss seems to be a bit weak ( but only a bit )
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On June 09 2013 17:01 massivez wrote: Btw is winning this bigger then winning wcs korea/Code S?
For the points? I guess, but not really.
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sOs looks to nervous and makes a lot of mistakes . Looks like protoss fans will have to wait for JangBi to make a finals to win a championship for them .
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On June 09 2013 17:02 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon If they nerf terran because of Innovation's play, I'll be real sad.
Did Blizzard nerf Terran because of MVP's play ? Think it was about raven butI'm not sure.
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On June 09 2013 17:00 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:57 SiroKO wrote: These commentators are utter scrubs compared to sOs. They should tone down their arrogance for a second and figure out why sOs didn't play according to their diamond/master league scheme. Commentators are meant to criticise bad play from players. You don't have to be even close to sOs's level to recognise a mistake - watching is much easier than doing after all. I don't know what you imagine they'd rather say: "Brilliant play! Losing all his stalkers like that! Being only a scrub compared to sOs I can't tell why he did that, but that must just mean he's such a genius compared to stupid me!"
Specifically, trying to figure out the reasons why sOs didn'tr expand, instead of claiming "he SHOULD have expanded". Obvious mistakes like micro/positional mistakes, like stalkers running into siege tanks, can and should be pointed out. But neither Tasteless nor Artosis have any legitimacy to harshly critcize sOs overall gameplay, and should, IMO, mostly stick to figure out why.
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On June 09 2013 17:02 RyF wrote: good morning! europe here. just got up despite beeing still drunkt to watch at least the finals of this.
why is the viewer count so low?
why are there different english streams?
which one is better?
Stream Quality OGN, Gom has the best overall commentating.
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On June 09 2013 17:02 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon If they nerf terran because of Innovation's play, I'll be real sad. In all honesty.. Hellbats are too well rounded in combination with medivacs and the boost. There's a reason why TvT and TvZ is winnable for me and TvP is not.
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United States97276 Posts
On June 09 2013 17:03 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 17:02 Ctesias wrote:On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon If they nerf terran because of Innovation's play, I'll be real sad. Did Blizzard nerf Terran because of MVP's play ? Think it was about raven butI'm not sure. They nerfed ghosts
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On June 09 2013 17:02 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon If they nerf terran because of Innovation's play, I'll be real sad.
It's not innovation, it's just the hellbat. Even Terran complain as TvT is kinda a shitfest 'cause of it.
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On June 09 2013 17:00 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:59 Iplaythings wrote: This commentary is nowhere near the level I tuned in for yesterday
so sad man, I wish day9 / Apollo casted this Dude, you can watch Apollo and Day9 on the second OGN stream.
No thanks, Tastosis for me
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On June 09 2013 17:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 17:03 Aeromi wrote:On June 09 2013 17:02 Ctesias wrote:On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon If they nerf terran because of Innovation's play, I'll be real sad. Did Blizzard nerf Terran because of MVP's play ? Think it was about raven butI'm not sure. They nerfed ghosts
MVP killed ghosts.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I find it kind of interesting that the Protoss race doesn't really have clutch performers beyond MC, Rain and Parting (up to ro8). Either they have to win with a large skill disparity or they die.
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On June 09 2013 17:04 massivez wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 17:02 RyF wrote: good morning! europe here. just got up despite beeing still drunkt to watch at least the finals of this.
why is the viewer count so low?
why are there different english streams?
which one is better? Stream Quality OGN, Gom has the best overall commentating.
OGN has hte casting couch stream with day9, apollo, and Chobra
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On June 09 2013 17:03 yrt123 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 16:58 Sissors wrote:On June 09 2013 16:57 SiroKO wrote: These commentators are utter scrubs compared to sOs. They should tone down their arrogance for a second and figure out why sOs didn't play according to their diamond/master league scheme. Yeah surely sOs had a really good reason to throw all his stalkers away after he pretty much won, who are we to consider that a bad idea... He hadn't pretty much won. He would only have pretty much won if he did NOT throw away the stalkers and ended the game there. He did not have an expansion or anything else other than gateway tech if the attack would be thwarted cuz that stargate was goin down if he was pushed back. It was either fully commit to the attack or play catch up. He played catch up while throwing away the army lead he had which was the only part of the game he was leading.
He did some serious eco damage even with Mules. The real problem is that he is never going to trade efficiently against medivacs and marines esp with mines thrown in. He had ot have tech going.
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On June 09 2013 17:03 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 17:01 massivez wrote: Btw is winning this bigger then winning wcs korea/Code S? Money wise yes, but going through Code S is way harder IMO. Code S is and always will be the prime competition in my eyes (OGN also obv)
Feels like it's the new WCG Korea Champion and WCG World Champion.
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On June 09 2013 17:03 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 17:02 Ctesias wrote:On June 09 2013 16:59 Noonius wrote: too bad there are gonna be some terran nefs soon If they nerf terran because of Innovation's play, I'll be real sad. Did Blizzard nerf Terran because of MVP's play ? Think it was about raven butI'm not sure. He has probably contributed to nerfs before, but that mech play at IEM he showcased made raven buffs not go through TT test maps existed but Mvp was too good.
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