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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 15 2013 15:59 GMT
#1781
So tough being a MKP fan....that game one build was basically what I used to do when I got desperate about my god-awful TvZ back in plat league....and it didn't work then either....at least game two was somewhat promising....but still I think he would be better served by playing standard instead of always trying odd timings

He really does need better zerg practice partners.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 15 2013 16:14 GMT
#1782
Again and Again. Kespa
Never!
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 15 2013 16:37 GMT
#1783
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.
still alive
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 15 2013 16:40 GMT
#1784
On May 16 2013 01:37 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.

Unlikely. There are 15-20 KeSPA A-teamers still having great difficult just making it to Code A. They seem to start sweeping away once they reached that level though.
By seasons 3 end, the likely scenario is something like 70/30 at best/worst. most likely something like 60/40
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1971 Posts
May 15 2013 16:40 GMT
#1785
On May 16 2013 01:37 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.

I wonder if there are just more Kespa players in general, thus giving them a better chance to have more players in GSL.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 15 2013 16:41 GMT
#1786
On May 16 2013 01:40 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:37 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.

I wonder if there are just more Kespa players in general, thus giving them a better chance to have more players in GSL.

there isnt.
The numbers are pretty similar actually.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 15 2013 16:46 GMT
#1787
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 15 2013 16:51 GMT
#1788
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?
still alive
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 15 2013 17:20 GMT
#1789
#primefaithshattered
rip prime
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 15 2013 17:26 GMT
#1790
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent

Didn't watch the games, but I definitely felt the exact same way when he played vs Parting. He took noticeably a LOT more feedbacks then I ever remember seeing a terran take, and that wasn't just because he was playing against Parting. Interesting that it happened again
Refer to my post.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
May 15 2013 17:32 GMT
#1791
Up and downs next season are going to be so brutal.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 15 2013 17:35 GMT
#1792
5/7 on liquibets, had hopes for creator and tear stay strong esf toss
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 17:57:23
May 15 2013 17:54 GMT
#1793
On May 16 2013 02:35 Fuell wrote:
5/7 on liquibets, had hopes for creator and tear stay strong esf toss

I daresay that Avenge is pretty much best eSF protoss right now.

Squirtle is inconsistent, inheriting the spirit of Bomber.

"Old" IM protoss look weak right now, but they got promissing players in Seed and YongHwa.

FXO_Tear is playing pretty good lately, but he choked in his games against Shine really hard.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
May 15 2013 18:05 GMT
#1794
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


Well...
True, but one of the reasons is definitely that many ESF players switched to another region - Kespa players not so much. About 15-20 ESF players switched and only 1 Kespa player (Jaedong).
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 18:17:10
May 15 2013 18:10 GMT
#1795
On May 16 2013 01:51 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?

KeSPA obviously

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This is a joke
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 15 2013 18:12 GMT
#1796
On May 16 2013 03:10 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:51 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?

KeSPA obviously

Byun has some stellar ghost micro
Refer to my post.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 15 2013 18:17 GMT
#1797
On May 16 2013 03:12 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 03:10 Zealously wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:51 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?

KeSPA obviously

Byun has some stellar ghost micro


His dog controls his units for him

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27412 Posts
May 15 2013 18:33 GMT
#1798
Taeja's ghost control was pretty monstrous when he was at his peak too, still not bad nowadays!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#1799
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa

who gives a fuck omg??? Just watch the highest level games and enjoy, stop comparing the two ffs.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
May 15 2013 18:44 GMT
#1800
On May 16 2013 03:05 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


Well...
True, but one of the reasons is definitely that many ESF players switched to another region - Kespa players not so much. About 15-20 ESF players switched and only 1 Kespa player (Jaedong).


Clear out players who are on foreign teams, which makes them not eSF players. I doubt you can name 15-20 eSF players in WCS EU or AM region.
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