• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:56
CEST 06:56
KST 13:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202541Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [G] Progamer Settings Help, I can't log into staredit.net BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 531 users

[Code A] RO24 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 1 2013 - Page 90

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 88 89 90 91 Next
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 15 2013 15:59 GMT
#1781
So tough being a MKP fan....that game one build was basically what I used to do when I got desperate about my god-awful TvZ back in plat league....and it didn't work then either....at least game two was somewhat promising....but still I think he would be better served by playing standard instead of always trying odd timings

He really does need better zerg practice partners.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 15 2013 16:14 GMT
#1782
Again and Again. Kespa
Never!
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 15 2013 16:37 GMT
#1783
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.
still alive
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 15 2013 16:40 GMT
#1784
On May 16 2013 01:37 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.

Unlikely. There are 15-20 KeSPA A-teamers still having great difficult just making it to Code A. They seem to start sweeping away once they reached that level though.
By seasons 3 end, the likely scenario is something like 70/30 at best/worst. most likely something like 60/40
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1952 Posts
May 15 2013 16:40 GMT
#1785
On May 16 2013 01:37 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.

I wonder if there are just more Kespa players in general, thus giving them a better chance to have more players in GSL.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 15 2013 16:41 GMT
#1786
On May 16 2013 01:40 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:37 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


It's really kinda sad for those who started following SC2 with the eSF players. At the same time it's pretty amazing how the KeSPA players are sweeping the GSL hard. The next seasons will have a ratio of 80/20 KeSPA/eSF mix of players, i'd bet.

Would it be good for KeSPA to just absorb eSF? They'd have to drop non-performing players though, probably only take those who've made it to Code S for next season.

I wonder if there are just more Kespa players in general, thus giving them a better chance to have more players in GSL.

there isnt.
The numbers are pretty similar actually.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 15 2013 16:46 GMT
#1787
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 15 2013 16:51 GMT
#1788
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?
still alive
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 15 2013 17:20 GMT
#1789
#primefaithshattered
rip prime
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 15 2013 17:26 GMT
#1790
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent

Didn't watch the games, but I definitely felt the exact same way when he played vs Parting. He took noticeably a LOT more feedbacks then I ever remember seeing a terran take, and that wasn't just because he was playing against Parting. Interesting that it happened again
Refer to my post.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
May 15 2013 17:32 GMT
#1791
Up and downs next season are going to be so brutal.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 15 2013 17:35 GMT
#1792
5/7 on liquibets, had hopes for creator and tear stay strong esf toss
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 17:57:23
May 15 2013 17:54 GMT
#1793
On May 16 2013 02:35 Fuell wrote:
5/7 on liquibets, had hopes for creator and tear stay strong esf toss

I daresay that Avenge is pretty much best eSF protoss right now.

Squirtle is inconsistent, inheriting the spirit of Bomber.

"Old" IM protoss look weak right now, but they got promissing players in Seed and YongHwa.

FXO_Tear is playing pretty good lately, but he choked in his games against Shine really hard.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
May 15 2013 18:05 GMT
#1794
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


Well...
True, but one of the reasons is definitely that many ESF players switched to another region - Kespa players not so much. About 15-20 ESF players switched and only 1 Kespa player (Jaedong).
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 18:17:10
May 15 2013 18:10 GMT
#1795
On May 16 2013 01:51 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?

KeSPA obviously

+ Show Spoiler +
This is a joke
AdministratorBreak the chains
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 15 2013 18:12 GMT
#1796
On May 16 2013 03:10 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:51 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?

KeSPA obviously

Byun has some stellar ghost micro
Refer to my post.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 15 2013 18:17 GMT
#1797
On May 16 2013 03:12 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 03:10 Zealously wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:51 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 16 2013 01:46 LighT. wrote:
Watched Flash's game. He's going to have to work on his ghost control. This isnt going to cut it against players like Rain and Parting. I think for every emp/snipe, there was two feedbacks on his ghosts.
He won g2 basically on brute force and starving out his opponent


Who would you say has the best ghost control in HoTS?

KeSPA obviously

Byun has some stellar ghost micro


His dog controls his units for him

AdministratorBreak the chains
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25342 Posts
May 15 2013 18:33 GMT
#1798
Taeja's ghost control was pretty monstrous when he was at his peak too, still not bad nowadays!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#1799
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa

who gives a fuck omg??? Just watch the highest level games and enjoy, stop comparing the two ffs.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
May 15 2013 18:44 GMT
#1800
On May 16 2013 03:05 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:14 YourHarry wrote:
Again and Again. Kespa


Well...
True, but one of the reasons is definitely that many ESF players switched to another region - Kespa players not so much. About 15-20 ESF players switched and only 1 Kespa player (Jaedong).


Clear out players who are on foreign teams, which makes them not eSF players. I doubt you can name 15-20 eSF players in WCS EU or AM region.
Prev 1 88 89 90 91 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
Elite Rising Star #16 - Day 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 219
-ZergGirl 178
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 755
actioN 380
PianO 339
Leta 258
HiyA 18
Bale 14
JulyZerg 13
GoRush 12
ivOry 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever935
League of Legends
JimRising 827
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1325
Stewie2K390
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King23
Other Games
summit1g9930
shahzam500
Maynarde111
Tasteless81
NeuroSwarm77
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1552
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH319
• practicex 57
• davetesta31
• Mapu6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1697
• Stunt443
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 4m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6h 4m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
10h 4m
PiGosaur Monday
19h 4m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 6h
Stormgate Nexus
1d 9h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 11h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.