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largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 15 2013 09:03 GMT
#401
On May 15 2013 17:54 Dodgin wrote:
For me one of the most interesting things is Fantasy's lack of progress compared to Bogus and Flash in sc2. In BW Fantasy's style was less macro and more micro based, you can see this in the TvT's vs Flash in the last year of BW where he would float resources but get better trades, and in the end win because of that. I feel like sc2 is more his game, but instead he's barely keeping at Code S level. He was clearly the best Terran for the last 8 months of BW, maybe more. Enough time has passed that you can exclude the argument that he switched later because of the last BW OSL finals. I really can't find any good reason for why he is not good enough, It's quite disappointing.


What do you think is fundamentally wrong in his play?
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2446 Posts
May 15 2013 09:05 GMT
#402
Progamer一条咸鱼
droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
May 15 2013 09:06 GMT
#403
I actually think fantasy has slowly but steadily been improving in sc2, I feel like he's going to be one to watch out for by the end of this year.

Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 09:08:32
May 15 2013 09:08 GMT
#404
The girl in this MV looks abit like the mexican girl in Modern family. Beautiful.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 09:09:42
May 15 2013 09:08 GMT
#405
Dayum this Kpop video is niceeee. So pretty

On May 15 2013 18:08 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
The girl in this MV looks abit like the mexican girl in Modern family. Beautiful.


I also see a bit of Cheryl Cole in here too for some reason. Pics of her if you don't know who she is xD
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Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
May 15 2013 09:08 GMT
#406
On May 15 2013 18:00 YpnotiS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 17:59 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On May 15 2013 17:58 YpnotiS wrote:
On May 15 2013 17:57 Wintex wrote:
On May 15 2013 17:56 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

uncontested today, it seems.

but she missed 9Muses :O

I wasn't on ! Was it Wild or Dolls?


Wild


They should play News someday, so good <3
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 15 2013 09:09 GMT
#407
I hope Tear finally gets code S, but ofc Shine is in the way.

I wonder if he came dressed in his top hat and and black cape today..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 15 2013 09:09 GMT
#408
On May 15 2013 18:03 largehadroncollider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 17:54 Dodgin wrote:
For me one of the most interesting things is Fantasy's lack of progress compared to Bogus and Flash in sc2. In BW Fantasy's style was less macro and more micro based, you can see this in the TvT's vs Flash in the last year of BW where he would float resources but get better trades, and in the end win because of that. I feel like sc2 is more his game, but instead he's barely keeping at Code S level. He was clearly the best Terran for the last 8 months of BW, maybe more. Enough time has passed that you can exclude the argument that he switched later because of the last BW OSL finals. I really can't find any good reason for why he is not good enough, It's quite disappointing.


What do you think is fundamentally wrong in his play?


It's hard to say, I think he's just not " complete " enough and often reads the game wrong. There was a recent PL game where he was playing against a Protoss on Fighting Spirit and he tried to be aggressive after his timing was lost vs a 2 base zealot/archon with heavy upgraded without using ghosts, he played decently but slowly lost because of the unit composition disadvantage. Most of the games I see him lose are either to bad decisions or not macroing well enough. He constantly floats resources just like he did in Brood war despite sc2's easier macro system.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 15 2013 09:10 GMT
#409
Nooooo, Legend stop trying to make Infinite happen please. Cut short nice, should definitely be doing Shinee > Infinite anyway.
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2446 Posts
May 15 2013 09:10 GMT
#410
Progamer一条咸鱼
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
May 15 2013 09:11 GMT
#411
Go, names on right side.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 15 2013 09:13 GMT
#412
Really looking forward to some PvZ! Especially after yesterdays 5-5 scoreline with the PvZs xD
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 15 2013 09:14 GMT
#413
gogo get code S!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 15 2013 09:14 GMT
#414
On May 15 2013 18:09 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 18:03 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 15 2013 17:54 Dodgin wrote:
For me one of the most interesting things is Fantasy's lack of progress compared to Bogus and Flash in sc2. In BW Fantasy's style was less macro and more micro based, you can see this in the TvT's vs Flash in the last year of BW where he would float resources but get better trades, and in the end win because of that. I feel like sc2 is more his game, but instead he's barely keeping at Code S level. He was clearly the best Terran for the last 8 months of BW, maybe more. Enough time has passed that you can exclude the argument that he switched later because of the last BW OSL finals. I really can't find any good reason for why he is not good enough, It's quite disappointing.


What do you think is fundamentally wrong in his play?


It's hard to say, I think he's just not " complete " enough and often reads the game wrong. There was a recent PL game where he was playing against a Protoss on Fighting Spirit and he tried to be aggressive after his timing was lost vs a 2 base zealot/archon with heavy upgraded without using ghosts, he played decently but slowly lost because of the unit composition disadvantage. Most of the games I see him lose are either to bad decisions or not macroing well enough. He constantly floats resources just like he did in Brood war despite sc2's easier macro system.

Since it is a new game, it is very hard to predict exactly who would do good, even if you can find some patterns (like younger players adapting better to the new game than old players). The reason why Fanta isn't as good in sc2 (yet) could be something banal, like he doesn't enjoy the new game as much or something like that.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 15 2013 09:17 GMT
#415
Gogo Tear!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 09:19:57
May 15 2013 09:19 GMT
#416
If that probe doesn't get scouted....this could be like a 7/8gate warp in into the main xD
Oh it's going to be 4gate fast 3rd pylon instead xd
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largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 15 2013 09:20 GMT
#417
On May 15 2013 18:09 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 18:03 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 15 2013 17:54 Dodgin wrote:
For me one of the most interesting things is Fantasy's lack of progress compared to Bogus and Flash in sc2. In BW Fantasy's style was less macro and more micro based, you can see this in the TvT's vs Flash in the last year of BW where he would float resources but get better trades, and in the end win because of that. I feel like sc2 is more his game, but instead he's barely keeping at Code S level. He was clearly the best Terran for the last 8 months of BW, maybe more. Enough time has passed that you can exclude the argument that he switched later because of the last BW OSL finals. I really can't find any good reason for why he is not good enough, It's quite disappointing.


What do you think is fundamentally wrong in his play?


It's hard to say, I think he's just not " complete " enough and often reads the game wrong. There was a recent PL game where he was playing against a Protoss on Fighting Spirit and he tried to be aggressive after his timing was lost vs a 2 base zealot/archon with heavy upgraded without using ghosts, he played decently but slowly lost because of the unit composition disadvantage. Most of the games I see him lose are either to bad decisions or not macroing well enough. He constantly floats resources just like he did in Brood war despite sc2's easier macro system.


That's just sad, fucking up on the basics... let's hope he picks up. SKT coaches should feed him with Flash replays for his macro problems. INnoVation replays to learn proper unit compositions.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 15 2013 09:20 GMT
#418
OMG LOL
1-0. So bad Shine rofl
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
May 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#419
typical shine game
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#420
Tear blocking his zealots movement with forcefields twice there, that was kinda funny.
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