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On March 17 2013 02:53 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:51 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:49 Emzeeshady wrote:On March 17 2013 02:48 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:43 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:42 Scarecrow wrote:On March 17 2013 02:41 Talack wrote:
Medivac boost is really OP on "cloud kingdom"
The speed boost combined with how the 3rd and main are set up is just ridiculous It's only OP when you fail at cheese then try to take a third. Please just stop. He's kind of right though. Failed DTs don't transition well into a quick third with drops around :/ Still the current Afterburners is too stronk. And yes I play Terran and on a map like Cloud it's just lol. I don't know man. Wait for foreign Terrans to crush Korean Zergs for 6 months and maybe Blizzard will call it slightly too strong :D This will never happen. Foreign Terrans are terrible No worse than foreign zergs. do people still argue this? terran is statistically and objectively the most difficult race for foreigners to play. it's not OP, or UP, it's just more difficult. can you even name five foreign terrans who could realistically compete in Code A?
that supports my argument. That's the reason foreign terrans struggled compared to foreign zergs , it's a far more demanding race to play.
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On March 17 2013 02:54 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Someone should do million dollar death poll for Minigun taking a game off Life Would you take it? I'm certainly not. Bly already killed me yesterday.
I live pretty dangerously and died from HongUn vs MC (I think? maybe another game around that time) like 2 years ago so I'd probably take it
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On March 17 2013 02:54 ujonecro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:54 Dodgin wrote:
wow mc 3-0 cjhero, that's way more one sided than I expected.
elephants or something. Games werent one sided at all.
Experience surely helped MC, at least in the last game.
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Looking ahead, Last has a 6-8 overall proleague record with a 3-4 record against zerg. Possible upset here?
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On March 17 2013 02:52 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On March 17 2013 02:51 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:49 Emzeeshady wrote:On March 17 2013 02:48 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:43 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:42 Scarecrow wrote:On March 17 2013 02:41 Talack wrote:
Medivac boost is really OP on "cloud kingdom"
The speed boost combined with how the 3rd and main are set up is just ridiculous It's only OP when you fail at cheese then try to take a third. Please just stop. He's kind of right though. Failed DTs don't transition well into a quick third with drops around :/ Still the current Afterburners is too stronk. And yes I play Terran and on a map like Cloud it's just lol. I don't know man. Wait for foreign Terrans to crush Korean Zergs for 6 months and maybe Blizzard will call it slightly too strong :D This will never happen. Foreign Terrans are terrible No worse than foreign zergs. Yes. Yes they are actually Prove it
For their respective eras. Among foreign terrans I can only think of:
Lucifron, Jinro, Kas, Demuslim, and Kas as being good.
For Zerg even ignoring Stephano: Idra, Dimaga, Sen, Scarlett, Ret, and Xigua were all badasses
edit: oh yeah, how could I forget Nerchio. He's really good too.
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On March 17 2013 02:54 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:54 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:53 Fionn wrote:
SC2 double the viewers of LoL's amateur tournament.
We're #1 again. Pop the champagne. All thanks to Chad Jones. Well is it live this time? Yeah, it's their LCS promotional amateur team something something tournament.
...so it's not real?
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On March 17 2013 02:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:44 Fionn wrote:
I'm okay with Terran being OP because all the best match-ups are with Terran in it.
Yeah, I said it. Whoa I never knew we could call other races imba in LR threads + Show Spoiler +
A race is only OP to me if we have six straight months of the same race mirror match-up in major finals.
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On March 17 2013 02:54 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:50 Noocta wrote:On March 17 2013 02:49 Emzeeshady wrote:On March 17 2013 02:48 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:43 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:42 Scarecrow wrote:On March 17 2013 02:41 Talack wrote:
Medivac boost is really OP on "cloud kingdom"
The speed boost combined with how the 3rd and main are set up is just ridiculous It's only OP when you fail at cheese then try to take a third. Please just stop. He's kind of right though. Failed DTs don't transition well into a quick third with drops around :/ Still the current Afterburners is too stronk. And yes I play Terran and on a map like Cloud it's just lol. I don't know man. Wait for foreign Terrans to crush Korean Zergs for 6 months and maybe Blizzard will call it slightly too strong :D This will never happen. Foreign Terrans are terrible Most foreign zergs are terrible too. Scarlett? STEPHANO? Nerchio? Vortix? Foreign SC2 is ruled by Zergs
nah non-korean zergs can actually stand against koreans....or have a shot..foreign zerg/terrans are just fodder
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Alright guys, enough with how much worse some foreigners are than others. Talk about the games!
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On March 17 2013 02:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:52 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On March 17 2013 02:51 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:49 Emzeeshady wrote:On March 17 2013 02:48 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:43 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:42 Scarecrow wrote:
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It's only OP when you fail at cheese then try to take a third. Please just stop. He's kind of right though. Failed DTs don't transition well into a quick third with drops around :/ Still the current Afterburners is too stronk. And yes I play Terran and on a map like Cloud it's just lol. I don't know man. Wait for foreign Terrans to crush Korean Zergs for 6 months and maybe Blizzard will call it slightly too strong :D This will never happen. Foreign Terrans are terrible No worse than foreign zergs. Yes. Yes they are actually Prove it For their respective eras. Among foreign terrans I can only think of: Lucifron, Jinro, Kas, Demuslim, and Kas as being good. For Zerg even ignoring Stephano: Idra, Dimaga, Sen, Scarlett, Ret, and Xigua were all badasses
It boggles my mind that you would put IdrA and Scarlett on that list but not Nerchio, it really really does.
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Zealot doesn't want to die.
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so much move command on the core...
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On March 17 2013 02:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On March 17 2013 02:52 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On March 17 2013 02:51 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:49 Emzeeshady wrote:On March 17 2013 02:48 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:43 Tobblish wrote:
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Please just stop. He's kind of right though. Failed DTs don't transition well into a quick third with drops around :/ Still the current Afterburners is too stronk. And yes I play Terran and on a map like Cloud it's just lol. I don't know man. Wait for foreign Terrans to crush Korean Zergs for 6 months and maybe Blizzard will call it slightly too strong :D This will never happen. Foreign Terrans are terrible No worse than foreign zergs. Yes. Yes they are actually Prove it For their respective eras. Among foreign terrans I can only think of: Lucifron, Jinro, Kas, Demuslim, and Kas as being good. For Zerg even ignoring Stephano: Idra, Dimaga, Sen, Scarlett, Ret, and Xigua were all badasses It boggles my mind that you would put IdrA and Scarlett on that list but not Nerchio, it really really does.
Well Scarlett deserves to be on the list, but I agree with your point about Nerchio. He's good
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On March 17 2013 02:53 bankobauss wrote:
instead of nerfing terran id say protoss could stand some slight buffing when it comes to buildtimes
i believe pheonix are the perfectly designed unit protoss already has to deal with medivacs. the cost/strength of phoenix, 150/100/2food gives you a pretty powerful unit to deal with drops and small marauding bio forces
imagine instead of every 2 stalkers (250/100) you had 1zealot and 1pheonix (250/100). think about it the pheonix are so much faster and superior and can actually get those darn medivacs
imagine if a protoss had 15 pheonix's spread out on the map to intercept drops and a strong ground army of collossi/storm/etc and when you see the terran moving in you can tell if its most of his army the pheonix are so fast they can respond and join the fight within 13 seconds while you retreat and drop down defensive storms for those 13 seconds.
pheonix IMO in that situation is much better than stalkers. Imagine you can have 30 stalkers OR 15 pheonix 15 zealot in your forces. Obviously the pheonix is more desire-able they can kill medivacs and even in that amount kill the drops themselves too
the problem is protoss as a race is just "so slow" right now... the COST of pheonix is good but its just the mechanics of protoss race where they are so forced into massing gateway units all game just to have a surviving chance..... it seems protoss ALREADY has the proper units to deal with this stuff with proper cost and balance and strength, its just the design of the race mechanics that makes it so difficult and i believe imo thats where the fixes should be addressed
I like the way you think, but with chrono a Phoenix builds insanely fast, faster than a Zealot even. And when it comes to balance. Blizzard shouldn't touch balance at all for at least two months. There will be some broken bullshit for a while here, but its better to have that then to change shit before players can figure things out.
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On March 17 2013 02:56 Myles wrote:
Alright guys, enough with how much worse some foreigners are than others. Talk about the games!
There's no game right now. 
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On March 17 2013 02:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On March 17 2013 02:52 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On March 17 2013 02:51 AxionSteel wrote:On March 17 2013 02:49 Emzeeshady wrote:On March 17 2013 02:48 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Tobblish wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 ZenithM wrote:On March 17 2013 02:43 Tobblish wrote:
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Please just stop. He's kind of right though. Failed DTs don't transition well into a quick third with drops around :/ Still the current Afterburners is too stronk. And yes I play Terran and on a map like Cloud it's just lol. I don't know man. Wait for foreign Terrans to crush Korean Zergs for 6 months and maybe Blizzard will call it slightly too strong :D This will never happen. Foreign Terrans are terrible No worse than foreign zergs. Yes. Yes they are actually Prove it For their respective eras. Among foreign terrans I can only think of: Lucifron, Jinro, Kas, Demuslim, and Kas as being good. For Zerg even ignoring Stephano: Idra, Dimaga, Sen, Scarlett, Ret, and Xigua were all badasses It boggles my mind that you would put IdrA and Scarlett on that list but not Nerchio, it really really does.
I made an edit -_-. See there's so many better foreign zerg than terran I'm actually forgetting people
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Wow just woke up to see MC 3-0'd hero.
Awesome 
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On March 17 2013 02:51 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 02:49 xongnox wrote:On March 17 2013 02:45 Talack wrote:On March 17 2013 02:44 Wintex wrote:
Afterburners are extremely good on maps like that. MAPS will matter more now. Thank god. Yeah the ability is not that OP on some maps but ones like cloud kingdom (or can you imagine antiga shipyard? lol) it's ridiculously strong on. like blink ? :D idk why toss doesn't open more stargate on this maps. phoenix really good vs medivacs :p, and oracle shut down mines pretty hard. You have to heavily, heavily invest in stalkers which is really dangerous versus Terran if you want to use Blink to defend.
I was talking about offensive blink play witch have being incredibly strong on this maps since ever :D
indeed defensive blink play vs T is questionable, but some players like MC doses it a lot, and MC nearly ever never dies to drop. So maybe it's not that bad. But imo we will see more stargate play in this MU. Btw free hallucinated phoenix pretty good too.
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