• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:16
CET 04:16
KST 12:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BW General Discussion Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video List of top players active on ShieldBattery
Tourneys
[BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14117 users

[IEM] Katowice Day 3 - Page 97

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 95 96 97 98 99 125 Next
Stop arguing about what is or isn't killing tournaments.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 19 2013 18:08 GMT
#1921
Galatukas
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
r1flEx
Profile Joined October 2012
Belgium256 Posts
January 19 2013 18:08 GMT
#1922
shave socke and give him thinner body = SCARLETT!
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#1923
them assassin gloves
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
January 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#1924
On January 20 2013 02:43 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 02:36 goswser wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:34 vthree wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:31 Prog455 wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:21 BretZ wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:20 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder if its the downtime or the IT nerf that is helping protoss do so well in this tournament.


I've honestly been wondering that the whole weekend. Is the IT nerf that bad for WoL?

My HoTS games in PvZ have been going well when I'm usually losing convincingly. Does it really deter people that much to avoid ITs?


I don't think it is bad for WoL, quite the opposite actually. But i do think that Zerg is doing worse because of the Infestor nerf. Next to every Zerg game i have seen the last few months has been an Infestor based build. Now that these builds don't work as well anymore Zerg players are forced to come up with new builds, and they may not have adapted quite yet.

I am really looking forward to see how this patch is going to affect Zerg in future tournaments. I know that the term "patchzerg" is frowned upon, but i nevertheless think that it is a little funny the first tournament after Infestor nerf, has the worst Zerg representation of any major tournament in the last six months


I think it has more to do with the line up more than anything.

If you look at the IPL Korean qualifiers, zergs are doing better than fine.

Not really the lineup actually has a lot of strong zergs if you look at it. A lot of it has to do with the group distribution, which resulted in most zerg players losing in group stages. You can't really take a single tournament such as the ipl qualifier to make a balance statement. Only two zergs did well - Jaedong, who is amazing, and Symbol, who scraped by multiple rounds with 2:1 wins.

As far as IEM goes, then there were not a large amount of top tier zergs, with only Snute, Nerchio and VortiX being part of the top, where as the rest is middle ish class, with bly/golden inbetween it all. I didn't see every game in the group stages, but I have seen all of the playoff, and TLO's play was disappointing, he got ahead and then just didn't follow it up properly, and Nerchio just played extremely greedy and got crushed.

And for the IPL, I don't even know how many of those games were shown, but probably not a huge amount, so you can't comment on that, and what is wrong with 2-1 wins?


I know that there has not been as many top tier Zergs at this tournament, but i actually think that is all the more reason to discuss whether patchzerg was a thing or not. If you look at Dreamhack Bucharest it was basicly the same Zergs that is playing in this tournament. This was a tournament with 8 Zergs in RO16 and a ZvZ final. Patchzerg was never used to describe players such as DRG or Stephano, but rather a lot of the relatively unknown European Zergs who was all of a sudden winning alot.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
January 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#1925
goddamn it kas and his buddy. Who knows what will happen to socke if he beats kas....
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
January 19 2013 18:10 GMT
#1926
On January 20 2013 03:05 Godwrath wrote:
Socke to Grubby : "See ? That's how it's done."



Socke doesn't have to face IM fucking Yoda.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
January 19 2013 18:10 GMT
#1927
On January 20 2013 03:06 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:05 DaNom wrote:
On January 20 2013 02:56 Bagration wrote:
Don't know who I'd rather see win, Kas or Socke.

Either way, as a history buff, this tournament reminds me of the partitions of Poland, with Germany, Russia (yes Kas is Ukrainian, but Ukraine used to be part of Russia), but instead of Austria, we have Korea, and they look to be taking most of Poland :p

Really bad comparision, what common do have an Esports event with such a dark period of history (for Poland at least)? Stop beggining the flame wars.


Sorry

Bah, Poland owns Korea in handball at this very moment.
joeschmo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States167 Posts
January 19 2013 18:10 GMT
#1928
That guy next to Kas is ready to stab a neck
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 19 2013 18:11 GMT
#1929
On January 20 2013 03:10 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:05 Godwrath wrote:
Socke to Grubby : "See ? That's how it's done."



Socke doesn't have to face IM fucking Yoda.

He already did.

Socke won.
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
January 19 2013 18:11 GMT
#1930
On January 20 2013 03:09 Bam Lee wrote:
goddamn it kas and his buddy. Who knows what will happen to socke if he beats kas....

i think he's kas' brother
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10168 Posts
January 19 2013 18:12 GMT
#1931
On January 20 2013 03:10 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:05 Godwrath wrote:
Socke to Grubby : "See ? That's how it's done."



Socke doesn't have to face IM fucking Yoda.


Socke did 2-1 Yoda ;p
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
January 19 2013 18:13 GMT
#1932
On January 20 2013 03:11 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:10 kafkaesque wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:05 Godwrath wrote:
Socke to Grubby : "See ? That's how it's done."



Socke doesn't have to face IM fucking Yoda.

He already did.

Socke won.


What?

Artosis' ironic voice:

"Is he the best player in the world right now?"
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 19 2013 18:14 GMT
#1933
I like this double stalker build. The poke always tells him if T is doing a 2 base or 3 base build.
Moderator
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
January 19 2013 18:14 GMT
#1934
Damn I was at work today just arrived home. YES First, crush them. How were the games?
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
January 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#1935
On January 20 2013 03:13 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:11 Hiea wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:10 kafkaesque wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:05 Godwrath wrote:
Socke to Grubby : "See ? That's how it's done."



Socke doesn't have to face IM fucking Yoda.

He already did.

Socke won.


What?

Artosis' ironic voice:

"Is he the best player in the world right now?"


Tasteless sarcastic voice:

"Is Socke the next zerg bonjwa?"
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#1936
On January 20 2013 03:14 stuchiu wrote:
I like this double stalker build. The poke always tells him if T is doing a 2 base or 3 base build.

How so? There isn't gonna be any additional marines from a 1rax expo into 3rax or a 3CC build.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 19 2013 18:16 GMT
#1937
On January 20 2013 03:15 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:14 stuchiu wrote:
I like this double stalker build. The poke always tells him if T is doing a 2 base or 3 base build.

How so? There isn't gonna be any additional marines from a 1rax expo into 3rax or a 3CC build.


There are additional marines. First game there were 4. In this game there were 7.
Moderator
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 19 2013 18:18 GMT
#1938
trademark german harassment???? rofl
yo
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 19 2013 18:18 GMT
#1939
On January 20 2013 03:16 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:15 Hiea wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:14 stuchiu wrote:
I like this double stalker build. The poke always tells him if T is doing a 2 base or 3 base build.

How so? There isn't gonna be any additional marines from a 1rax expo into 3rax or a 3CC build.


There are additional marines. First game there were 4. In this game there were 7.

Nope, you will have that amount of marines if you don't stop the production of marines, which is done a lot by terran players to get buildings out quicker.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
January 19 2013 18:18 GMT
#1940
On January 20 2013 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:13 kafkaesque wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:11 Hiea wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:10 kafkaesque wrote:
On January 20 2013 03:05 Godwrath wrote:
Socke to Grubby : "See ? That's how it's done."



Socke doesn't have to face IM fucking Yoda.

He already did.

Socke won.


What?

Artosis' ironic voice:

"Is he the best player in the world right now?"


Tasteless sarcastic voice:

"Is Socke the next zerg bonjwa?"


Man I'm suffering from serious Tastosis-withdrawal...

I haven't seen these guys in months.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Prev 1 95 96 97 98 99 125 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 171
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13121
MaD[AoV]29
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm190
League of Legends
JimRising 692
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor143
Other Games
summit1g9834
ToD91
ViBE14
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV114
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 77
• davetesta13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 45m
WardiTV Invitational
8h 45m
IPSL
13h 45m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
16h 45m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
1d 6h
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.