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On January 09 2013 02:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Thanks Wintex!
I hope Bomber and ByuN make it out of this group but I could really see it being anyone on a good day. KeSPA players seem to struggle in the up and down format so sOs probably wont make it. I think ByuL on average is probably the weakest in the group even though he has strong peaks. Genius just joined a new team so he could be on fire again. HerO has looked really strong vs T but Bomber has looked great vs P. I want ByuN to go back to his season 3 form :/ I think it'll be Bomber and HerO
Npnp! I'll do everything to not disappoint!
My Bomber should crush this group. HerO/ByuN/Genius get the second and third spot.
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On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi.
Total % score over a veeeeery long time says very little over current skill in that matchup, but sure hi irrelivant info.
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Wow, the TvT may not even be played. Scumbag GomTV 
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matchup-wise this is the best group Byun could have hoped for. Lately only his TvP seemed to be where it belongs to. I really hope he gets his stuff together again. It was painful to watch him play in the past months.
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Olli
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On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi.
He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past.
HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard.
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Bomber most likely going to advance, simply because he's in a group with 3 other Protoss....
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On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard.
no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently).
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Let's go Bomber!
Bomber, just don't go 3-0 and lose the next 2 games and not make it into Code S.
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Byun got this ez pz.
Bomber's gon bomber it and choke, hero? More like zero. Byun's got his elephant gun out for sos and byul and genius is too busy duo queuing with madlife for this match.
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Olli
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On January 09 2013 03:37 Rui.S wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard. no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently).
a) Considering HerO has played more in international tournaments, that's actually the stats to look at.
b) His last games in Korea were 5-5 with losses to Flash, Rain, Dear and Parting and wins vs Parting, Flying, Mvp, Reality, check.
c) Statistic for his last 15 PvTs in korea is 12-3. While his recent korean PvP is clearly worse, that's because he's been playing mostly Rain and Parting.
HerO wins just about every PvT currently and his PvP is good enough to beat anyone. Only player who clearly has his number is Rain. Byun knows how to cheese in TvP, Bomber is legit.
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On January 09 2013 03:37 Rui.S wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard. no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently).
Yeah, that's how I see it as well. But HerO is by default the #1 favorite every time he plays, thanks to TL fanboyism.
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Olli
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On January 09 2013 03:48 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:37 Rui.S wrote:On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard. no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently). Yeah, that's how I see it as well. But HerO is by default the #1 favorite in every match he plays, thanks to TL fanboyism.
Considering he's the one who's posted the best results recently out of anyone in the group, yeah. Yeah he is.
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On January 09 2013 03:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:48 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 03:37 Rui.S wrote:On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard. no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently). Yeah, that's how I see it as well. But HerO is by default the #1 favorite in every match he plays, thanks to TL fanboyism. Considering he's the one who's posted the best results recently out of anyone in the group, yeah. Yeah he is.
The others aren't being sent to every foreign tournament by TL. Bomber had a better result than HerO at IPL, and HerO bombed out in the last Korean tournament he played, where he was once again seeded thanks to his foreign tournament results.
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On January 09 2013 03:48 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:37 Rui.S wrote:On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard. no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently). Yeah, that's how I see it as well. But HerO is by default the #1 favorite every time he plays, thanks to TL fanboyism.
What results of Byun are you so impressed with that you'd favor him over HerO who posted better results both in GSL and outside of it ?
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sHy/sOs seems to be underrated. He is one of the best KeSPA guys.
I expect a battle between Bomber, Hero and sHy. If one of them has a bad day, Byun will get 2nd/3rd.
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Olli
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On January 09 2013 03:52 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 03:48 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 03:37 Rui.S wrote:On January 09 2013 03:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 09 2013 02:42 sitromit wrote:On January 09 2013 02:16 Lysanias wrote:
Reasonable group for HerO. Appart from Bomber he should be beating them all.
35% PvP says hi. He's got 65% PvP overall. You were just looking at his stats from korea where he was notoriously weak at the matchup in the past. HerO should win this group no problem if he plays like he has in december. Hoping for Genius to advance with him and Bomber wildcard. no one cares about international stats, heros last 10 games in korea were 2-8 and they more mostly all from december. Byun and bomber have some of the best tvps in the world (though byun has fallen quite a bit recently). Yeah, that's how I see it as well. But HerO is by default the #1 favorite in every match he plays, thanks to TL fanboyism. Considering he's the one who's posted the best results recently out of anyone in the group, yeah. Yeah he is. The others aren't being sent to every foreign tournament by TL. Bomber had a better result than HerO at IPL, and HerO bombed out in the last Korean tournament he played, where he was once again seeded thanks to his foreign tournament results.
HerO didn't "bomb out", he took at least a game off everybody and these were the best players in the entire world. But we'll see.
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I'm surprised no one has voted for ByuL as third place... The wildcard group has 3 Zerg players already... Why not make it a 4th? 
On January 09 2013 03:21 catplanetcatplanet wrote:Wow, the TvT may not even be played. Scumbag GomTV
ByuN hates TvT anyways...
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On January 09 2013 04:27 Elite_ wrote:I'm surprised no one has voted for ByuL as third place... The wildcard group has 3 Zerg players already... Why not make it a 4th? Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 03:21 catplanetcatplanet wrote:Wow, the TvT may not even be played. Scumbag GomTV ByuN hates TvT anyways...
Bomber's TvT isn't really the best either. It's good enough to beat ByuN I guess. Polt and that caliber are a different story though. + Show Spoiler +But he's still best everything ever.
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Byun could easily have the best TvT in the world. He just makes some weird choices lately that cost him the games everytime... I guess there is something wrong with him outside of the game... I have no other explanation for his decision making to fall off that massively after GSL season 3.
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