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djack0666
Profile Joined March 2011
Belarus219 Posts
December 25 2012 15:25 GMT
#1921
No vods?
"... of wolf and man!"
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 25 2012 15:30 GMT
#1922
On December 26 2012 00:25 djack0666 wrote:
No vods?


There is ALWAYS vods. In Korean: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
December 25 2012 15:31 GMT
#1923
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.

User was temp banned for this post.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12795 Posts
December 25 2012 15:34 GMT
#1924
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.

Well Stephano will probably be very useful when he'll be in korea, JYP got some kills off and Jaedong is someone with some "potential" (LOL).
I'm glad to have TaeJa in my main team because even in his current form (far from his 2012 peak in the summer) he is capable of beating kespa boys!
WriterMaru
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 25 2012 15:38 GMT
#1925
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.


Thing is, Even TL (Hero & Taeja) need JYP and Jaedong to win games. Jaedong & JYP has been winning almost as much as TL. Without them, it could be even worse for the whole team..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 25 2012 15:53 GMT
#1926
I'm glad I woke up and my Christmas wish was granted! (Ace match, with TaeJa or HerO). Wewtttttt EG-TL Fighting!
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
December 25 2012 16:01 GMT
#1927
On December 26 2012 00:38 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.


Thing is, Even TL (Hero & Taeja) need JYP and Jaedong to win games. Jaedong & JYP has been winning almost as much as TL. Without them, it could be even worse for the whole team..

Tl: 8:4 (including: 1:1 ace)
EG: 6:11 (including: 0:1 ace)

EG really should play better :/
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 16:15:23
December 25 2012 16:08 GMT
#1928
On December 26 2012 01:01 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 00:38 Grettin wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.


Thing is, Even TL (Hero & Taeja) need JYP and Jaedong to win games. Jaedong & JYP has been winning almost as much as TL. Without them, it could be even worse for the whole team..

Tl: 8:4 (including: 1:1 ace)
EG: 6:11 (including: 0:1 ace)

EG really should play better :/

How many of those losses are from T-zain and Huk? Yes, statistically Liquid is pulling in more wins but when you have two of the scariest players in Taeja and Hero I think this can be expected. Who is else is Liquid going to throw out there though? Maybe if TLO was in Korea they would have another scary player but they still need EG because the best EG players are still better than the mediocre Liquid players.

That being said, T-zain and Huk shouldn't be used anymore. It's not because they are foreigners but because, to put it simple, they are playing godawful. It's an autowin for the other team whereas a foreigner like TLO might actually get a few points. I think it is really cool that both of the players got put out once, to say that they played in Proleague, but just lie Nony abstains from playing in team matches (Because he doesn't think he can pull his wieght) they should do the same.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 25 2012 16:11 GMT
#1929
These are stupid comparisons. EG and TL are in this together, there is no one or the other. It's team league.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 25 2012 16:11 GMT
#1930
EGTL got lucky this time. But it is okay for T8 to drop some games since they are more or less a group of b-teamers and Baby. If only one of the weaker players on T8 could have gotten the free win from Thorzain...

Baby fighting <3
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Topzerg
Profile Joined November 2012
64 Posts
December 25 2012 16:13 GMT
#1931
On December 26 2012 01:01 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 00:38 Grettin wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.


Thing is, Even TL (Hero & Taeja) need JYP and Jaedong to win games. Jaedong & JYP has been winning almost as much as TL. Without them, it could be even worse for the whole team..

Tl: 8:4 (including: 1:1 ace)
EG: 6:11 (including: 0:1 ace)

EG really should play better :/


TL got their 2 aces.
EG's ace is not there.

Replace Puma/Thorzain/Huk by Ret/Sheth/Nony and the result would be the same. But if these players get to their peak shape... EG's are just way way better.

Both teams top 3 players are pretty close in skill with a slight advantage to TL but I'd much rather have Jaedon as third than Zenio:
TL: Taeja, Hero, Zenio.
EG: Stephano, JYP, Jaedong.

The difference is.. EG has way more depth. Both teams need each other though.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
December 25 2012 16:17 GMT
#1932
On December 25 2012 14:48 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 14:47 proofy wrote:
On December 25 2012 14:46 Grettin wrote:
On December 25 2012 14:45 Serinox wrote:
Khaldor tell Hwanni how to manage a team please.

Cough estro cough. I really doubt its hwanni that is the problem here..

How's Estro doing these days?

I dunno, ask NonY.

It was lack of funds, not personnel, that hurt estro the most and that wasn't Hwanni's fault at all. Hwanni was an excellent manager. I don't know why Serinox implying that Hwanni is a bad manager should concern anyone. Who is Serinox anyway and how does he think he knows something? It's probably a vacuous judgment. Ignore it until something substantive is said.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
December 25 2012 16:17 GMT
#1933
On December 26 2012 01:13 Topzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 01:01 Tarotis wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:38 Grettin wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.


Thing is, Even TL (Hero & Taeja) need JYP and Jaedong to win games. Jaedong & JYP has been winning almost as much as TL. Without them, it could be even worse for the whole team..

Tl: 8:4 (including: 1:1 ace)
EG: 6:11 (including: 0:1 ace)

EG really should play better :/


TL got their 2 aces.
EG's ace is not there.

Replace Puma/Thorzain/Huk by Ret/Sheth/Nony and the result would be the same. But if these players get to their peak shape... EG's are just way way better.

Both teams top 3 players are pretty close in skill with a slight advantage to TL but I'd much rather have Jaedon as third than Zenio:
TL: Taeja, Hero, Zenio.
EG: Stephano, JYP, Jaedong.

The difference is.. EG has way more depth. Both teams need each other though.


EG has way more depth, but no one spectacularly good, their two best players are Stephano (which is really good actually, but showing weak ZvZ these days) and Revival (who doesn't seem to be on PL roster for now). TL is kinda stronger than EG but in the end, they probably wouldn't even have those two wins without EG helping them.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 16:36:00
December 25 2012 16:35 GMT
#1934
On December 26 2012 01:17 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 14:48 AgentW wrote:
On December 25 2012 14:47 proofy wrote:
On December 25 2012 14:46 Grettin wrote:
On December 25 2012 14:45 Serinox wrote:
Khaldor tell Hwanni how to manage a team please.

Cough estro cough. I really doubt its hwanni that is the problem here..

How's Estro doing these days?

I dunno, ask NonY.

It was lack of funds, not personnel, that hurt estro the most and that wasn't Hwanni's fault at all. Hwanni was an excellent manager. I don't know why Serinox implying that Hwanni is a bad manager should concern anyone. Who is Serinox anyway and how does he think he knows something? It's probably a vacuous judgment. Ignore it until something substantive is said.

It was a joke lol, get some humor.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 16:38:05
December 25 2012 16:35 GMT
#1935
On December 26 2012 01:08 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 01:01 Tarotis wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:38 Grettin wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.


Thing is, Even TL (Hero & Taeja) need JYP and Jaedong to win games. Jaedong & JYP has been winning almost as much as TL. Without them, it could be even worse for the whole team..

Tl: 8:4 (including: 1:1 ace)
EG: 6:11 (including: 0:1 ace)

EG really should play better :/

How many of those losses are from T-zain and Huk? Yes, statistically Liquid is pulling in more wins but when you have two of the scariest players in Taeja and Hero I think this can be expected. Who is else is Liquid going to throw out there though? Maybe if TLO was in Korea they would have another scary player but they still need EG because the best EG players are still better than the mediocre Liquid players.

That being said, T-zain and Huk shouldn't be used anymore. It's not because they are foreigners but because, to put it simple, they are playing godawful. It's an autowin for the other team whereas a foreigner like TLO might actually get a few points. I think it is really cool that both of the players got put out once, to say that they played in Proleague, but just lie Nony abstains from playing in team matches (Because he doesn't think he can pull his wieght) they should do the same.


I think all those game lost for liquid was Zenio and Sea. Not argueing about EG vs TL, to be honest, they are one team, and that's how we should treat them.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 25 2012 17:02 GMT
#1936
I was too hungover to keep watching after game 3. dammit!!! grats EG-TL! gonna have to check out the VODs for sure
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 25 2012 17:03 GMT
#1937
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.

Chill out. Zenio isn't good, and then you obviously can't have a 2 person team. Least, I thought that was obvious, your attitude is a disgrace.
Refer to my post.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
December 25 2012 17:05 GMT
#1938
On December 26 2012 02:03 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.

Chill out. Zenio isn't good, and then you obviously can't have a 2 person team. Least, I thought that was obvious, your attitude is a disgrace.



At least Zenio took a game off Roro whereas the other two EG players havent

어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 25 2012 17:07 GMT
#1939
On December 26 2012 02:05 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2012 02:03 Zenbrez wrote:
On December 26 2012 00:31 Glurkenspurk wrote:
TL still carrying EG so hard. Idk why EG is even there. Hopefully they covered the proleague cost.

Turns out a group of clowns and entertainers aren't actually good at competing. Embarrassing.

Chill out. Zenio isn't good, and then you obviously can't have a 2 person team. Least, I thought that was obvious, your attitude is a disgrace.



At least Zenio took a game off Roro whereas the other two EG players havent


EG-TL has won 14 maps
TL won 8
EG won 6
I wouldnt say they are "carrying EG so hard" like Glurkenspurk claims
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 25 2012 17:45 GMT
#1940
Congratulations to the dynamic duo, I didn't expect this, but I figured it was possible. I hope they can get more comfortable in Proleague and continue with respectable performances. Their first 0-4 showing was kinda depressing, but even with a losing record I'd say they've been performing well, and should only perform better as time goes on (hopefully).
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
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