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On December 18 2012 03:10 Panishev wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 03:00 shaaw wrote:
Its not luck, the initial brack was luci vs fraer, and they swaped him with happy...
Im tired of seeing tournament use the brothers to advertise themselfs We were to change Fraer with BabyKnight as the last was in one group with Happy and couldn't play vs him in playoffs. If you think we did it on purpose, you are mistaken.
Don´t understand... if u changed BabyKnight, next round for Luci/Vortix should continue equal. But i think u should have changed Luci or Vortix to get this final bracket.
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Hm, i never knew that there were changes in IPL 5. If tournament organizers are doing this on purpose, they should already know that this idea will backfire.
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This is starting to be sooo annoying, last 2 times they´ve met was due to "changes" in the brackets... seriously please, none is happy with this anymore...
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This is not a Spanish fanboys cry. Its about doing what you want because you are the admin, and then whining because things get ugly.
If you cant organize a bracket, then contract someone. Its not so difficult to get groups phase and brackets and getting everything written one year before the first match, so everyone knows what are the rules.
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Maybe Panishev should explain exactly how the playoff bracket was created.
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Anyway....
The Ritmix image has been damaged. It's done. And Karont3's situation aswell. I think they have to be tired about this shits.
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The duran curse, suspicious.....
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Actually, it doesnt matter to much what they say about the bracket was made right know. Whatever they say we dont know if that was true before what happen today. This wouldnt happen if they explayned the format of brackets when they anounced the groups, like every other sport competition does.
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And so millions of spanish voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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This is a worst image for Ritmix ever!! Ritmix give 7,500$ Prize, but they can't do a bracket ... nice
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On December 18 2012 03:25 LorCHsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 03:21 TechNoTrance wrote:
Judging from the posts above Spain is not happy. This is not about Spain This is about a huge joke colled Durán vs Durán 5 times in 2 months.... and change a bracket? Ohhh c'mon!!
They didn't get placed in opposite sides of the bracket. What a conspiracy.
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ELA, if you think that spanish voices are so easily silenced, you should ask for a good psychiaric.
We hacve worst politicians ever, worst lawyers, worst economists, but don t try to fuck with our football players or with our starcraft players. Spains trolls are worlwide know, we can be really annoynig.
Ritmix admins sure that do their best, or at least I think they will try.
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On December 18 2012 03:58 TechNoTrance wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 03:25 LorCHsc2 wrote:On December 18 2012 03:21 TechNoTrance wrote:
Judging from the posts above Spain is not happy. This is not about Spain This is about a huge joke colled Durán vs Durán 5 times in 2 months.... and change a bracket? Ohhh c'mon!! They didn't get placed in opposite sides of the bracket. What a conspiracy.
We are not complaining about them not been placed in oposites sides of the bracket. We complain about the ways tournament place the players in the bracket. It would be fine if they play each other early in the bracket sometimes, but they played early in the past 5 tournaments with weird bracket changes that dont smell pretty good.....
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Explain the player placement in the playoffs from the group stage before the tournament starts and all will be fine.
Seeing so, so many times LucifroN vs VortiX, with several times sudden brackets changes sucks to see 
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On December 18 2012 03:35 Psyclon wrote:
Maybe Panishev should explain exactly how the playoff bracket was created.
When we made bracket, many factors were taken into account: huge tournaments (HSC VI), players schedule, correction for gravitational redshift...
Ofc we didn't want Lucifron and Vortix meet in the first round. And they haven't.
We didn't think about what will be in Round 2. But as Karont3 explained us their situation for the last two mnths when Lucifron met Vortix in the first bracket's round almost in each tourney, we decided to edit our bracket a bit.
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That's good to hear, thanks 
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On December 18 2012 04:38 Panishev wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 03:35 Psyclon wrote:
Maybe Panishev should explain exactly how the playoff bracket was created. When we made bracket, many factors were taken into account: huge tournaments (HSC VI), players schedule, correction for gravitational redshift... Ofc we didn't want Lucifron and Vortix meet in the first round. And they haven't. We didn't think about what will be in Round 2. But as Karont3 explained us their situation for the last two mnths when Lucifron met Vortix in the first bracket's round almost in each tourney, we decided to edit our bracket a bit.
Changing the seedings to avoid certain players meeting each other due to their relation (be it brothers, team mates, rl friends or something else) feels kinda like a dangerous path to take.
I understand that it might be crappy for Vortix and Lucifron to face each other early in a lot of tournaments, but assuming a non-random seeding was made it's just something you have to take.
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On December 18 2012 03:10 Panishev wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 03:00 shaaw wrote:
Its not luck, the initial brack was luci vs fraer, and they swaped him with happy...
Im tired of seeing tournament use the brothers to advertise themselfs We were to change Fraer with BabyKnight as the last was in one group with Happy and couldn't play vs him in playoffs. If you think we did it on purpose, you are mistaken.
Funniest thing in here is that you asked Pedro to change his spot but didnt tell him about the chances to meet VortiX at Ro8 if both win their rounds. Maybe you were expecting some "no" from Lucifron and got your mouth shut???
Spaniards we have been very supportive since the first RSL Season, even if our countrymates werent playing at all, but sorry man, this is very suspicious how you made it and how you didnt give any specific answer to Karont3 managament, just a late "sorry its not possible" after claiming several times "we will fix it"
We dont mind if there´s a duran vs duran matchup as long as brackets/seeds are clear, but not this time, not IPL5 either
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Every tournament/organisation should define how the brackets will be built before starting the group stage, that would end every speculation.
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On December 18 2012 06:22 Ryo_ wrote:
Every tournament/organisation should define how the brackets will be built before starting the group stage, that would end every speculation.
+1
If the organisation want to be serious. YES.
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EPT
