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Nausea_
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden68 Posts
November 17 2012 09:37 GMT
#6841
GO IDRA! Crush the frogman :D
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
November 17 2012 09:37 GMT
#6842
http://kr.battle.net/bwc/ko/ <-- no lagg, no black screen, and lovely korean casters ^^
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
November 17 2012 09:37 GMT
#6843
This is just utterly unacceptable. The biggest tournament of SC2 to date arguably and the production has been incredibly bad. Really disappointing and embarassing.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 09:38:15
November 17 2012 09:37 GMT
#6844
On November 17 2012 18:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:35 X3GoldDot wrote:
GRACK 100% back


How can he be back? Wasn't "Grack"'s ZvZ awful?


huh? idra has always had good zvz
Moderatorlickypiddy
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
November 17 2012 09:37 GMT
#6845
On November 17 2012 18:36 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:33 GTR wrote:
just watch the ogn stream, they are casting all main stage games
http://kr.battle.net/bwc/ko/


Fuck yeah, it's not lagging! Thanks!


The commentary is also better
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6846
On November 17 2012 18:35 Integra wrote:
hey, all EG/IdrA/Stephano haters; here is your chance to make up some bullshit conspiracy theory about Stephano throwing games so both IdrA and Stephano gets out of the group!

EDIT: Type type like the wind!!


I already mentioned it, but I'm not a hater of any of them. It is a very real possibility. You can live in your own perfect world where everyone plays FOR HONOR!!! But seriously, there is $100,000 on the line, and Stephano has thrown games in tournaments before (see Stephano vs BratOK) and he probably has a better shot against HerO (who he already crushed) followed by BabyK.

I'm sorry... it's just a reality.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6847
On November 17 2012 18:37 Dyami wrote:
ABSOLUTELY the most FRUSTRATING viewing experience EVER!!! Between the 30% volume of the commentating vs. the 150% volume of the ads, the stream stuttering, the 4 ads I have to watch over and over every time the stream is lost...

Just wow... I would rather pay 15 bucks and actually get to watch a full 2 or 3 games then waste my time getting 40 percent of one game....


Dude just watch the Korean stream on mute then turn on Catz stream and listen to their commentaries about the games. Much better viewing experience thus far <3
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6848
These two legends.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6849
lol idra not wearing eg shirt is he going to leave eg?
AveGod
Profile Joined April 2012
30 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6850
Stephano should be disqualified imo. He 100% thrown that 1st game. Not even a platinum players attack like that. He's trying to avoid Rain in the bracket.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6851
On November 17 2012 18:37 UnKooL wrote:
Its funny on the Korean stream half the time the korean casters are talking about IdrA and how his attitude has changed from the past when he used to be bm.


gotta admit.. he's gotten a lot better
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 17 2012 09:38 GMT
#6852
Got $3 odds on Idra
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6853
How have you not played the single player Artosis. -_-;
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6854
On November 17 2012 18:37 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:36 Sent. wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:35 Mensol wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:35 Laryleprakon wrote:
Idra vs Rain would be pretty fun ^_^

It would be pretty one sided.


Like Idra vs Roro?

Rain isnt Roro.

Ahh so babyKnight obviously must not be Roro either. Good to know!
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6855
On November 17 2012 18:37 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:36 tomatriedes wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:33 GTR wrote:
just watch the ogn stream, they are casting all main stage games
http://kr.battle.net/bwc/ko/


Fuck yeah, it's not lagging! Thanks!


The commentary is also better


Observer is also better too.(or it is just me lol.)
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6856
On November 17 2012 18:38 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:35 Integra wrote:
hey, all EG/IdrA/Stephano haters; here is your chance to make up some bullshit conspiracy theory about Stephano throwing games so both IdrA and Stephano gets out of the group!

EDIT: Type type like the wind!!


I already mentioned it, but I'm not a hater of any of them. It is a very real possibility. You can live in your own perfect world where everyone plays FOR HONOR!!! But seriously, there is $100,000 on the line, and Stephano has thrown games in tournaments before (see Stephano vs BratOK) and he probably has a better shot against HerO (who he already crushed) followed by BabyK.

I'm sorry... it's just a reality.

Keep it up!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
LiamBrady
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore197 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6857
For anyone having problems with Twitch, this is an awesome link you can use in VLC: http://hd.ognp2p.gscdn.com/ognsdlive

Such good observing on the KR stream, an upgrade in so many ways
Scarlett and SEA Dota
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6858
On November 17 2012 18:32 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:25 opterown wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:24 vthree wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:22 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:20 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:19 Enchanted wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:16 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:14 vthree wrote:
On November 17 2012 18:09 Havik_ wrote:
So will this end the "foreigners can't keep up with Koreans" bullshit?


I think we have known for a while now that when foreigners play their A game, they have a good shot at beating Koreans. However, outside of a couple players like Stephano and Nerchio, they just haven't been able to do it consistently.


Foreigners playing their A games?

From the upsets i have seen, it was more like Koreans botching their games more than foreigners winning.

Rain got out micro'd pretty hard in that second game. First game was him botching it but the second he just got out micro'd.


Rain never got out-microed.

He overextended after he pushed back Babyknight initial push.
Ended losing one immortal.
Cost him the game.

Either way he got out micro'd or made a stupid choice which lost him the game... he lost either way.


Your point being?

babyknight played better?


As much as I believe that Koreans are still generally better than foreigners (minus the aforementioned outliers), BabyKnight won over Rain. Whatever happened, that means that BabyKnight played better than Rain.

If anything, this should be a wake-up call for Koreans that they need to research their opponents better as their raw skill is no longer at a level that makes not knowing their opponents irrelevant. Still, foreigners are doing better but I don't believe that these players are the absolute best Korean players around (minus Rain). Send in Life, Leenock, Mvp and in-form players like Ryung, Flash and such. If the podium is multi-national then I'll concede.

Heck, even right now, apart from Scarlett, Nerchio and Stephano, I bet most of the top spots will be filled with Koreans. In order for it to stay that way, though, Koreans need to stop being so arrogant and actually study foreign opposition.


Well, Koreans already devote a lot of time studying their GSL opponents. I don't think it is arrogance as much as a time issue. I am sure top foreigners like Stephano, Scarlett, Nerchio get studied a lot by Koreans. But players like TitaN and Babyknight, probably not as much. It is not a insult to these players, I am sure players study Rain, PartinG more than they study for Arthur, Sang, etc.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6859
Tasteless wins that debate I'd say.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 17 2012 09:39 GMT
#6860
On November 17 2012 18:38 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 18:37 UnKooL wrote:
Its funny on the Korean stream half the time the korean casters are talking about IdrA and how his attitude has changed from the past when he used to be bm.


gotta admit.. he's gotten a lot better


lol i still remember when he was in GSL all the koreans wanted to play versus Idra because they were butthurt that he bad mannered them on ladder something, I remember that one guy was like "Idra insulted my family, I do not forget..."
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