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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:35 ROOTMajOr wrote: sure bro mediocre i bet u never seen him play before seen more games of bogus then your play, "bro"  besides leenock just no one was impressing, well not the first guy who shouldnt advance advanced, makes for some weak r16 games but whatever floats your boat | ||
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:43 Kasaraki wrote: This season is so fucking weird, and the games don't seem very good. When the scene is this competitive, game is so volatile, nothing weird at all. For top 100 players, everybody can beat everybody, they all have the potential to be code S champion. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:48 Schelim wrote: most to least awesome in terms of watching: TvZ>TvT>TvP>ZvZ>PvP>Moletrap casting paint dry>PvZ imo TvZ>TvP>TvT>PvP>Moletrap casting paint dry>ZvZ>Having nails pulled>PvZ | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:43 Shellshock1122 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Code S Ro16 so far:  PartinG  Polt  Symbol Hack Curious Neo.G_Soulkey YoDa HyuN DongRaeGu Creator MarineKing Sniper Leenock INnoVation Code A Round 2 so far: finale RorO HerO GuMiho Mvp sOs KeeNCode A Round 1 so far: TaeJa Happy Maru Rain Bbyong Seed Squirtle JYP Genius Mini Trap Terminator MC aLive MMA Bomber asd ByuN SuperNova Flash Heart Sparta BBoongBBoong Shine SiriusTBD: Life Vampire Ryung tySo many Terrans in Code A. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:48 Schelim wrote: most to least awesome in terms of watching: TvZ>TvT>TvP>ZvZ>PvP>Moletrap casting paint dry>PvZ imo PvZ is only boring (to me) if it's an immortal sentry allin, or a 50 min hide behind spine game. I don't mind 3 base timings because zergs are never prepared the same way, so it plays out differently usually. I really do like PvT though | ||
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Bahajinbo
Germany488 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:47 ragnorr wrote: I dont get the mass hate towards ZvZ, its a far better matchup than PvZ and PvP imo :X I love PvZ, to be honest. Especially Creators PvZ. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:53 Bahajinbo wrote: I love PvZ, to be honest. Especially Creators PvZ. i despite lategame PvZ. early game is alright, even though it's mostly toss allins working or failing. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:50 dainbramage wrote: TvZ>TvP>TvT>PvP>Moletrap casting paint dry>ZvZ>Having nails pulled>PvZ After the action packed epic ZvZ MLG final? ZvZ hasn't been too bad since the queen patch TBH and a lot of them are really entertaining. | ||
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pprrii
Russian Federation216 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:55 opterown wrote: i despite lategame PvZ. early game is alright, even though it's mostly toss allins working or failing. More lile Zerg defend or failing. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
As for matchups, TvT is clearly the most exciting and dynamic imo. TvT TvZ is close second, then a huge distance back to TvP ZvZ PvP PvZ | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2242 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18519 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:34 {ToT}ColmA wrote: i really feel like bogus doesnt deserve to advance, another mediocre terran advancing ._. Bogus has never been mediocre, what are you talking about o.o | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:56 ragz_gt wrote: After the action packed epic ZvZ MLG final? ZvZ hasn't been too bad since the queen patch TBH and a lot of them are really entertaining. I used to hate ZvZ since it was either earlypool into win, get a lucky baneling or max on just roaches and win. All of this can still happen, but so does a host of other things now. The variety and cool play we're seeing from high level ZvZ players (Leenock vs Life for example) has gotten me on board. I'm still yet to see a series of PvP that's been good. Some one-offs in team leagues have been ok. Too much collosus pew pew nowdays though, but immortal WP harass is something I'm excited for. And PvZ is fine. As long as it doesn't involve soulless wonwonwon and gglords they can be quite interesting. Pheonix harass, void ray all-ins, roach busts, roach-hydra drops, nydus worms, infestor hit squads, sentry drop harass, etc. Mid-game PvZ can be really interesting. Honestly it's one all-in Protoss have and the infestor-BL combo lategame that basically makes the matchup amazingly linear which ruins our enjoyment of it. It's not PvZ. It's that two builds/compositions are so much better than everything else, there's little sense not doing them. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 07 2012 22:05 bittman wrote: I'm still yet to see a series of PvP that's been good. Some one-offs in team leagues have been ok. Too much collosus pew pew nowdays though, but immortal WP harass is something I'm excited for. i thought most of the creator PvPs in WCS KR were solid stuff http://www.gomtv.net/2012wcskorea/vod/70402/?set=3 | ||
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KingOfNoodles
Australia379 Posts
Hope he can pick himself back up | ||
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:56 ragz_gt wrote: After the action packed epic ZvZ MLG final? ZvZ hasn't been too bad since the queen patch TBH and a lot of them are really entertaining. I think I just don't find zerg at all exciting now. Even the MLG finals I was like "oh, mutas. Oh an infestor got near them. Bye 10 mutas. Oh, now roaches vs roaches and beachballs and fungal and everything's green" then "Huh, life's actually pulling back from 0-3. Wow he might win it. Well that was kinda cool" On November 07 2012 22:05 bittman wrote: And PvZ is fine. As long as it doesn't involve soulless wonwonwon and gglords they can be quite interesting. Pheonix harass, void ray all-ins, roach busts, roach-hydra drops, nydus worms, infestor hit squads, sentry drop harass, etc. Mid-game PvZ can be really interesting. Honestly it's one all-in Protoss have and the infestor-BL combo lategame that basically makes the matchup amazingly linear which ruins our enjoyment of it. It's not PvZ. It's that two builds/compositions are so much better than everything else, there's little sense not doing them. Well that's the problem right? There aren't many variations. Protoss does wonwonwon. Zerg either holds and wins, dies and loses, or loses third but lives If the latter, protoss does 3 base timing. Zerg either holds and wins, dies and loses, or sustains damage but lives If the latter, we get a 30 minute turtlefest where the ending is a foregone conclusion That adequately describes 80% of PvZ. Which is bad. And the alternatives aren't much better. Some form of zerg cheese, the protoss skipping the wonwonwon to do a 3 base timing only, or the protoss deciding he likes losing and playing for the lategame, thus ensuring the 30 min turtlefest into inevitable zerg victory. | ||
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Daswollvieh
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