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Moonglade vs Daisy, Soukley vs Hyaa and Soo 1- 0 Suppy atm :D
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United States23455 Posts
Did Polt really almost lose to goswser again? What.
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If you're Protoss and you take a third base vs Zerg, you deserve to lose I think. Why try and play lategame when Zerg has a defacto edge there?
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On November 04 2012 13:27 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:25 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:24 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:22 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.
How quickly things change... at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans. Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM.. and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL. what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays. MC is still pretty good but saying Leenock isn't top tier after he 4-2's the OSL champion (and supposedly best player in the world) and just generally plays at a top5 in the world level for months.... right. Where was Leenock in spring/summer 2012 when Taeja was at his best? And he's just so far from Life lvl atm that it's not even funny. LOL wtf... great logic OMG ONE PLAYER is higher than him in skill (possibly, probably sure god I love both those little Zerg geniuses) so suddenly he's not top tier. Leenock is absolutely one of the top 5 or so players in the world, I can't think of many who'd argue this as of his results last year and again for the last few months. and in between when Taeja's was at his best Leenock had a lack of results and wasn't dominant. Right now Leenock is probably top5, sure top3 Z, like he was in late 2011/early 2012 but in between he wasn't that great.
Then why did you say
"Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm"
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 04 2012 13:27 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:25 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:24 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:22 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.
How quickly things change... at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans. Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM.. and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL. what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays. MC is still pretty good but saying Leenock isn't top tier after he 4-2's the OSL champion (and supposedly best player in the world) and just generally plays at a top5 in the world level for months.... right. Where was Leenock in spring/summer 2012 when Taeja was at his best? And he's just so far from Life lvl atm that it's not even funny. LOL wtf... great logic OMG ONE PLAYER is higher than him in skill (possibly, probably sure god I love both those little Zerg geniuses) so suddenly he's not top tier. Leenock is absolutely one of the top 5 or so players in the world, I can't think of many who'd argue this as of his results last year and again for the last few months. and in between when Taeja's was at his best Leenock had a lack of results and wasn't dominant. Right now Leenock is probably top5, sure top3 Z, like he was in late 2011/early 2012 but in between he wasn't that great.
so this all goes back to you saying that taeja doesn't beat good koreans in offline bo5, and he only beat leenock last season?
lol
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
I reaaaally should go to bed.
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On November 04 2012 13:27 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:22 sitromit wrote:
Flash's TvZ is fast 3 base into a 2-2 Bio timing. If Life delays it with his usual harass, then he should win. In the games ive seen from the MvP invitational he played mech most of the time.
he played bio mech every game except like 2 in the series' against soo and effort
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God create Life... but ya can't beat Life... does that mean God created something he himself cannot defeat? Has Flash created his own demise?
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On November 04 2012 13:27 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:25 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:24 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:22 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.
How quickly things change... at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans. Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM.. and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL. what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays. MC is still pretty good but saying Leenock isn't top tier after he 4-2's the OSL champion (and supposedly best player in the world) and just generally plays at a top5 in the world level for months.... right. Where was Leenock in spring/summer 2012 when Taeja was at his best? And he's just so far from Life lvl atm that it's not even funny. LOL wtf... great logic OMG ONE PLAYER is higher than him in skill (possibly, probably sure god I love both those little Zerg geniuses) so suddenly he's not top tier. Leenock is absolutely one of the top 5 or so players in the world, I can't think of many who'd argue this as of his results last year and again for the last few months. and in between when Taeja's was at his best Leenock had a lack of results and wasn't dominant. Right now Leenock is probably top5, sure top3 Z, like he was in late 2011/early 2012 but in between he wasn't that great.
LOL you've lost yourself here. Your argument has become convoluted... first it was Leenock not top tier (current) now its he wasn't top tier for a few months of time not even in discussion? Great.
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Northern Ireland27410 Posts
On November 04 2012 13:27 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:26 -_- wrote:On November 04 2012 13:22 kju wrote:On November 04 2012 13:21 veKtory wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 SwizzY wrote:
That's why Tal'Darim isn't used. It's so Z favored it's stupid to try even play a straight up game. ZvP is actaully Toss favored on TDA because of rocks at the 3rd. they removed the rocks Even with the rocks, it was still Z favored. Z can take thirds in strange places (early game mobile units, queens, etc...), P can't. Third and main rather far apart. 3 ff to block natural ramp, way too many to block third. Mutas are strong because of wide open natural back. ??? Definitely not Z favored in the matchup... P loves playing PvZ on that map. If Z takes third in strange place, it's an easy 2base push for protoss, since it takes half an hour to get units over to defend. Also can't ferry a queen over so macro is late anyway (making it even easier to 2base push as Toss). That's why so many Zs used to just 6pool on that map, it's probably the best chance of winning.
That's not how I recall it, Muta play absolutely murders Toss on TDA from my own recollection. Especially without the rocks at the third which were a big anti-Zerg feature
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United States15275 Posts
So what kind of style does Flash prefer in TvZ?
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btw, naniwa, scarlett, and ?babyknight? are the foreign hopes. gz to BK. underestimated ya, cool dude.
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On November 04 2012 13:28 mcmartini wrote:
Moonglade vs Daisy, Soukley vs Hyaa and Soo 1- 0 Suppy atm :D
wow they are still playing? must be tired as hell.
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On November 04 2012 13:27 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:22 sitromit wrote:
Flash's TvZ is fast 3 base into a 2-2 Bio timing. If Life delays it with his usual harass, then he should win. In the games ive seen from the MvP invitational he played mech most of the time.
good, i'd love to see some all inish play /w 2 reactors + 3tech lab and lots of hellions against Life's heavy zergling style, dunno if Flash has it prepared.
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On November 04 2012 13:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
God create Life... but ya can't beat Life... does that mean God created something he himself cannot defeat? Has Flash created his own demise?
Can god create an obstacle that he can not overcome? I shall contemplate.
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On November 04 2012 13:28 Fionn wrote:
Did Polt really almost lose to goswser again? What.
Yep lol
Lost 0-2 to Rain too, but heh.. that's not as surprising.
Polt is garanted some money tho, he's already in the winning prize range.
He could probably go home after this tournament with some money and noone ever knew he was there.
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United States23455 Posts
Polt just won a game on Ohana. Take that, Person Who He Is Playing.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 04 2012 13:29 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 13:27 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:25 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:24 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:22 Maloreon wrote:On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:
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at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans. Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM.. and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL. what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays. MC is still pretty good but saying Leenock isn't top tier after he 4-2's the OSL champion (and supposedly best player in the world) and just generally plays at a top5 in the world level for months.... right. Where was Leenock in spring/summer 2012 when Taeja was at his best? And he's just so far from Life lvl atm that it's not even funny. LOL wtf... great logic OMG ONE PLAYER is higher than him in skill (possibly, probably sure god I love both those little Zerg geniuses) so suddenly he's not top tier. Leenock is absolutely one of the top 5 or so players in the world, I can't think of many who'd argue this as of his results last year and again for the last few months. and in between when Taeja's was at his best Leenock had a lack of results and wasn't dominant. Right now Leenock is probably top5, sure top3 Z, like he was in late 2011/early 2012 but in between he wasn't that great. LOL you've lost yourself here. Your argument has become convoluted... first it was Leenock not top tier (current) now its he wasn't top tier for a few months of time not even in discussion? Great.
don't worry, Leenock was world champion only a few hours ago, and is on the verge of being world champion again ez
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If Axslav had a better voice, he would be the complete caster.
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The Finals i think we all want to see..
Flash vs Life
OH MAN!!!
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EPT
