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babyToSS
Profile Joined December 2009
233 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12021
On November 04 2012 13:13 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:10 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:09 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Terran, why no ghosts?


Don't think they'd help vs Muta ling bane but you're welcome to go tell Taeja how to play.


I'm just asking why, but it seems the only way to win:

Ghosts have bonus against light
Ghosts have EMP
Ghosts have bonus against psionic
Ghosts have cloak
Ghosts have nuke which is good against slow BLs

I'm sure Taeja has his reasons, but if he is going bio mech, why not use his own spell caster?


Focus firing Sieged tanks with their 13 range have always been and continue to be the best way to deal with infestors. Ghosts even with their cloak, psionic bonus and nukes still get shut down pretty easily by fungals (add overseers but not really necessary) by a good zerg player.

Ghost snipe were a GtA response to BLords that didn't die to the brutal tech switches from late game zergs. Blizz could have made it so it was a little bit weaker or harder to mass ghosts but they didn't like the idea of a spellcaster countering most of zerg so they nerfed it pretty hard and made it a situational versus caster unit. However, ghosts were never that good against infestors so the compensatory buff was pretty worthless and now they are only useful in late game TvP.

babyToSS here! Can u go easy on me plzzz?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12022
On November 04 2012 13:20 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:19 Nick_54 wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:10 vthree wrote:
And people questioned Mvp for not going bio tank in their series... I think with Life's micro, injects and creep spread, even if the Terran doesn't make mistakes, he is still at a disadvantage situation with bio mech.


Yeah being the great thinker and player he is MVP through his analysis probably did what gave him the best chance to win. To be honest hes the only terran I've seen even come close to beaitng Life. Better luck tomorrow Taeja. The Liquid hope is fading fast this MLG

IMO MVP wasn't playing at his best that night, but Life was still a monster.


Wtf?
MVP was playing well.
MVP always plays well in GSL Korea Finals.

Some mistakes here and there but those mistakes were forced by Life.
Play your best
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 04:22:53
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12023
Second to last group of eliminations tonight: Scarlett, TheStc, Jookto, San. #MLGDallas

Second to last group or eliminations? They are going to play another round in the losers bracket tonight? Brutal for the players! Also first Elephant gonna be eliminated with hyvaa playing Soulkey!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12024
Apparently they are doing yet another CLR round tonight Jesus. I heard 2 maybe 3, now it's 4.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12025
On November 04 2012 13:13 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:10 Badfatpanda wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:09 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Terran, why no ghosts?


Don't think they'd help vs Muta ling bane but you're welcome to go tell Taeja how to play.


I'm just asking why, but it seems the only way to win:

Ghosts have bonus against light
Ghosts have EMP
Ghosts have bonus against psionic
Ghosts have cloak
Ghosts have nuke which is good against slow BLs

I'm sure Taeja has his reasons, but if he is going bio mech, why not use his own spell caster?

Ghosts get destroyed by lings.
Ghosts get fungaled. Nukes are expensive.
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12026
On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.

How quickly things change...


at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans.


Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM..


and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL.

what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten


Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays.

wtf lol leenock is definitely top tier zerg
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12027
On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.

How quickly things change...


at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans.


Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM..


and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL.

what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten


Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays.


What...? I agree with MC but Leenock is definitely top tier right now. He just won that tournament in China. He got top 8 in GSL. He won the MLG before this one.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12028
Flash's TvZ is fast 3 base into a 2-2 Bio timing. If Life delays it with his usual harass, then he should win.
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12029
So Suppy faces soO, Rain, Naniwa. Might be the end of the road, but damn it was a good run!
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 04:23:47
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12030
On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.

How quickly things change...


at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans.


Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM..


and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL.

what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten


Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays.


MC is still pretty good but saying Leenock isn't top tier after he 4-2's the OSL champion (and supposedly best player in the world) and just generally plays at a top5 in the world level for months.... right.

Ah I almost forgot he just won his SECOND MLG from open bracket awhile back and also won that tournament in China with multiple GSL champions (crushed everyone).

Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
November 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#12031
On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.

How quickly things change...


at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans.


Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM..


and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL.

what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten


sAsImre is blind. Taeja has beated LOADS of top tier koreans in offline events.
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Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
November 04 2012 04:23 GMT
#12032
On November 04 2012 13:18 readytorock wrote:
wtf flash facing life tommorow?? omg.....GL flash...that's all I can say

Yeah lol. Nice run Flash but your training is not complete.

This is like that fight in a video game that you're supposed to lose.
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MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
November 04 2012 04:23 GMT
#12033
Hyped about Flash vs. Life.

Flash better bring his A game, otherwise Life will keep doing what he does. Win.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 04 2012 04:23 GMT
#12034
On November 04 2012 13:22 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:20 Daogin wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:19 Nick_54 wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:10 vthree wrote:
And people questioned Mvp for not going bio tank in their series... I think with Life's micro, injects and creep spread, even if the Terran doesn't make mistakes, he is still at a disadvantage situation with bio mech.


Yeah being the great thinker and player he is MVP through his analysis probably did what gave him the best chance to win. To be honest hes the only terran I've seen even come close to beaitng Life. Better luck tomorrow Taeja. The Liquid hope is fading fast this MLG

IMO MVP wasn't playing at his best that night, but Life was still a monster.


Wtf?
MVP was playing well.
MVP always plays well in GSL Korea Finals.

Some mistakes here and there but those mistakes were forced by Life.


Mvp threw a game won (1) and 2 where he was ahead, which afaik never happened to him before.
Zest fanboy.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
November 04 2012 04:23 GMT
#12035
Too bad Scarlett got knocked out. Still, facing nothing but koreans and going 7-8 is nothing to scoff at.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 04 2012 04:23 GMT
#12036
Startale owning both GSL and MLG =D
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
November 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#12037
Bah, why did Flash have to pull Life so early? Should've been in the finals -__-
From the void I am born into wave and particle
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#12038
On November 04 2012 13:23 Hall0wed wrote:
Startale owning both GSL and MLG =D

not eswc ;p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#12039
I just got back from Pizza Hut.

Has Polt been on stream yet?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#12040
On November 04 2012 13:22 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 13:21 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:19 opterown wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:11 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:08 Noocta wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:07 sAsImre wrote:
On November 04 2012 13:06 Dodgin wrote:
Taeja just looks completely lost, Life is just wrecking him and not long ago Taeja was dominating everything at a bunch of international tournaments.

How quickly things change...


at a bunch of tournament without top tier koreans.


Including 3 or 4 all kill of all the shitty korean team like Startale, Prime, IM..


and he has 0 win in an offline bo5 against a top tier korean. People were hyping him as the best player in the world while he was failing again and again in the latter round of the GSL.

what? leenock, MC, etc he has beaten


Leenock and MC aren't top tier atm, I think he's/was just under the guys who were top5, and it's sad to see him falling with such shitty play nowadays.


MC is still pretty good but saying Leenock isn't top tier after he 4-2's the OSL champion (and supposedly best player in the world) and just generally plays at a top5 in the world level for months.... right.



Where was Leenock in spring/summer 2012 when Taeja was at his best? And he's just so far from Life lvl atm that it's not even funny.
Zest fanboy.
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