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[TSL4] Qualifier 14 - EU/NA #10 - Page 38

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m4thje
Profile Joined December 2010
208 Posts
July 11 2012 21:52 GMT
#741
not making vikings (okay, he made 4) against 5/6 collosi isn't really smart, is it
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
July 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#742
Lol the one bad engagement in the middle, where illusion was caught off guard, completly switched the game around.

Weird gg-timing though.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:53:38
July 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#743
On July 12 2012 06:50 MCDayC wrote:
Illusion just started throwing units aways, wtf, at one point he had a 50 supply lead and was a base up.

A lot of that were SCVs though. He simply had nothing to kill the colossi and Fraer's blink micro was amazing, even with the server disadvantage.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:54:25
July 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#744
On July 12 2012 06:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:44 BronzeKnee wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:41 BronzeKnee wrote:
Okay, so we have 3 players out of 4 from North America in the last North American Qualifer. Hopefully one player from the Americas can qualify for the TSL. So far no North American player has qualified for the TSL, which is sad because 1/3 of the qualifiers were held on the NA server...

Major is guaranteed in and is from NA. If he loses in the finals he will be #1 in points still. If he wins the finals... then he's in.


Yeah, but I meant qualified via winning a qualifier, not just with points. I find it annoying that all these Koreans and Europeans are qualifying via the North American server...

But Snixsnipe above is right, a lot of American players haven't been playing in the qualifiers.

Oh sorry I thought you meant overall. But even overall you would have had a point before today because minus the people who count select no NA had even qualified via points. I'm glad at least major made it in. Would love to see Major and Illusion


Nah it is my fault, I didn't make it clear. I'd just really like to see a player from NA just win a qualifier on the NA server.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#745
FRAER has some really sick micro for sure!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2012 21:54 GMT
#746
On July 12 2012 06:53 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:50 MCDayC wrote:
Illusion just started throwing units aways, wtf, at one point he had a 50 supply lead and was a base up.

A lot of that were SCVs though. He simply had nothing to kill the colossi and Fraer's blink micro was amazing, even with the server disadvantage.

Yea the army supply difference was only ~20 going into the big fight because illusion was ahead 81-53 in worker count
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 11 2012 21:54 GMT
#747
On July 12 2012 06:53 Miragee wrote:
Lol the one bad engagement in the middle, where illusion was caught off guard, completly switched the game around.

Weird gg-timing though.


5 colossi 10+stalkers vs queued units... and the fight occured at the 3rd of illu.
Zest fanboy.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 11 2012 21:54 GMT
#748
On July 12 2012 06:50 Bashion wrote:
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On July 12 2012 06:46 StarVe wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:44 Bashion wrote:
I hope Fraer doesnt end up like Titan. Remember how much people were hyping Titan a few months ago?

What do you mean? Titan is still good, not everyone without notable LAN results is therefore a bad player.


Im not saying Titan is bad. But the way Rotti and Bitter used to hype him as the best EU player was kinda crazy.


To be fair, Rotti and Bitter hype a lot of people like crazy.

I think Titan may have been overhyped, but I think RoX.KIS definitely has some good potential in general. Fraer, Titan, and sLivko have all demonstrated some pretty exciting play. They just seem to need more LAN experience.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 11 2012 21:54 GMT
#749
On July 12 2012 06:53 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:50 MCDayC wrote:
Illusion just started throwing units aways, wtf, at one point he had a 50 supply lead and was a base up.

A lot of that were SCVs though. He simply had nothing to kill the colossi and Fraer's blink micro was amazing, even with the server disadvantage.

Yeah, I guess. He seemed pretty dominant, but no vikings, behind on upgrades, and Fraer micro really well just killed Illusion. Pretty cool game imo.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 11 2012 21:54 GMT
#750
On July 12 2012 06:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:53 StarVe wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:50 MCDayC wrote:
Illusion just started throwing units aways, wtf, at one point he had a 50 supply lead and was a base up.

A lot of that were SCVs though. He simply had nothing to kill the colossi and Fraer's blink micro was amazing, even with the server disadvantage.

Yea the army supply difference was only ~20 going into the big fight because illusion was ahead 81-53 in worker count

Nah, definetely more than 30.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 11 2012 21:55 GMT
#751
On July 12 2012 06:52 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:42 SniXSniPe wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:41 BronzeKnee wrote:
Okay, so we have 3 players out of 4 from North America in the last North American Qualifer. Hopefully one player from the Americas can qualify for the TSL. So far no North American player has qualified for the TSL, which is sad because 1/3 of the qualifiers were held on the NA server...


Not a lot of NA players even bothered.

How many other qualifiers did you see Illusion/ViBe/Major in, for instance? Not a whole lot.

Major has been in at least four. He's already qualified though. It's between Real and Illusion/Fraer for the last spot.

Edit: Also, are you sure they haven't participated? I suspect they've just been knocked out prior to Ro32.


There are several big names that didn't really participate at all. Idra for example.

Every server has big names that never participated.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:56:14
July 11 2012 21:55 GMT
#752
On July 12 2012 06:55 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:52 hitpoint wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:42 SniXSniPe wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:41 BronzeKnee wrote:
Okay, so we have 3 players out of 4 from North America in the last North American Qualifer. Hopefully one player from the Americas can qualify for the TSL. So far no North American player has qualified for the TSL, which is sad because 1/3 of the qualifiers were held on the NA server...


Not a lot of NA players even bothered.

How many other qualifiers did you see Illusion/ViBe/Major in, for instance? Not a whole lot.

Major has been in at least four. He's already qualified though. It's between Real and Illusion/Fraer for the last spot.

Edit: Also, are you sure they haven't participated? I suspect they've just been knocked out prior to Ro32.


There are several big names that didn't really participate at all. Idra for example.

Every server has big names that never participated.


I didn't say otherwise. Guy I quoted just asked if there were players who didn't participate.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:57:26
July 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#753
On July 12 2012 06:52 m4thje wrote:
not making vikings (okay, he made 4) against 5/6 collosi isn't really smart, is it


Stalker/Colossus is making a comeback because so many Protoss players have been using Zealot/HT so long that Terrans aren't getting enough Vikings.


On July 12 2012 06:55 Bagi wrote:

Every server has big names that never participated.


Which shocked me because the TSL3 was amazing. There are a lot of "big names" missing from the TSL4, it definitely lacks the star power that the TSL3 had.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#754
I am so happy fraer is finally exploding. I was seriously writing months ago to watch out for this kid, when he killed some koreans in online cups.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#755
On July 12 2012 06:50 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:46 StarVe wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:44 Bashion wrote:
I hope Fraer doesnt end up like Titan. Remember how much people were hyping Titan a few months ago?

What do you mean? Titan is still good, not everyone without notable LAN results is therefore a bad player.


Im not saying Titan is bad. But the way Rotti and Bitter used to hype him as the best EU player was kinda crazy.


All commentators have their personal favorites, Bitter and Rotti may have overhyped Titan a bit, but he still shows results, for example knocking out JYP at DH. Remember Husky hyping up Spanishiwa and others (rsvp maybe?) to be top foreigners?
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:57:58
July 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#756
were the supplies flipped?

I wasn't watching closely, but sometimes the supplies are flipped and everyone gets confused why a guy GGs with a 50 supply lead, but if you look at the units on the screen it was clear what really happened. it didn't look like illusion has 180 supply worth of units, did it?
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 11 2012 21:57 GMT
#757
On July 12 2012 06:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 06:50 Bashion wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:46 StarVe wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:44 Bashion wrote:
I hope Fraer doesnt end up like Titan. Remember how much people were hyping Titan a few months ago?

What do you mean? Titan is still good, not everyone without notable LAN results is therefore a bad player.


Im not saying Titan is bad. But the way Rotti and Bitter used to hype him as the best EU player was kinda crazy.


All commentators have their personal favorites, Bitter and Rotti may have overhyped Titan a bit, but he still shows results, for example knocking out JYP at DH. Remember Husky hyping up Spanishiwa and others (rsvp maybe?) to be top foreigners?


Is that why Spanishiwa has so many fans? That always confused me.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 11 2012 21:58 GMT
#758
Fraer is really gifted... He never lost an actual game in the other two qualifiers that he participated, he decided to forfeit. This time he decided to actually play. ^^

So sad for LucifroN. It would be so cool to see him join in brother in the TSL. TT
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
July 11 2012 21:58 GMT
#759
wtf i leave for a few hours and now theres americans in the semis



fraer is a murderer though :/
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 11 2012 21:58 GMT
#760
On July 12 2012 06:56 Oboeman wrote:
were the supplies flipped?

I wasn't watching closely, but sometimes the supplies are flipped and everyone gets confused why a guy GGs with a 50 supply lead, but if you look at the units on the screen it was clear what really happened. it didn't look like illusion has 180 supply worth of units, did it?


100 supply of MMM. 4 vikings vs 4 colossi that's the all story.
Zest fanboy.
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