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On June 19 2012 19:31 Snowbear wrote: This is why Kaldor is in my opinion wrong when he says that terrans shouldn't make hellions vs zerg anymore. 1rax FE into 2 gas into reactor hellions normally holds this build. If you don't make hellions you just die 100%.
I agree. Hellions still also force Zerg to react to you as well. The only thing is you can't just suicide your Hellions onto the drone line anymore beause you always need the threat there.
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On June 19 2012 19:33 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:31 SolidMustard wrote:On June 19 2012 19:30 Ghanburighan wrote: In times of peril, true heroes are born. He gets stronger every time he gets close to death  MKP = Huskar?
naw he's olaf with a Maw
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On June 19 2012 19:34 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:33 Douillos wrote:On June 19 2012 19:31 AbuntuGuntu wrote:On June 19 2012 19:30 teddyoojo wrote:On June 19 2012 19:28 gh0stsquall wrote:On June 19 2012 19:26 teddyoojo wrote: sc2 - where yugioh beats marineking .....this makes absoloutely no sense at all. emphasizing on how much sense it makes for yugioh to beat mkp :> You realize how good Yugioh is right? Not good enough to be in same phrase as MKP frankly Unless the phrase is "Yugioh is beating MKP 1:0" ?
Or the phrase "Yugioh knows that MKP is weak in the early game, as therefore he uses that for the win"
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good that mkp learned and isnt playing as greedy now
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To be honest I didn't think he was that greed. Good response from Yugioh, but MKP wasn't overly greed. But not walling off was a bad decision.
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On June 19 2012 19:32 Blaec wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:30 Dundron2000 wrote: for the love of god can Tasteless stop calling GG so everytime someone gets an advantage. i dont care if he's right its just very boring to listen to game after game What? That was so beyond GG I think tasteless chooses when to call a GG pretty well. He often gets it to within a few seconds.
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On June 19 2012 19:33 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:31 AbuntuGuntu wrote:On June 19 2012 19:30 teddyoojo wrote:On June 19 2012 19:28 gh0stsquall wrote:On June 19 2012 19:26 teddyoojo wrote: sc2 - where yugioh beats marineking .....this makes absoloutely no sense at all. emphasizing on how much sense it makes for yugioh to beat mkp :> You realize how good Yugioh is right? Not good enough to be in same phrase as MKP frankly
Even though last time they met in the GSL Yugioh won
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On June 19 2012 19:34 rutian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:33 SupLilSon wrote:On June 19 2012 19:31 SolidMustard wrote:On June 19 2012 19:30 Ghanburighan wrote: In times of peril, true heroes are born. He gets stronger every time he gets close to death  MKP = Huskar? haah beat you to it by seconds.
I thought I was so original XD
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On June 19 2012 19:34 habeck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:33 SupLilSon wrote:On June 19 2012 19:31 SolidMustard wrote:On June 19 2012 19:30 Ghanburighan wrote: In times of peril, true heroes are born. He gets stronger every time he gets close to death  MKP = Huskar? more like Goku.
Yeah, I had goku in mind
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On June 19 2012 19:34 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:29 kyllinghest wrote: People talking about greed: He only expanded once, same as Yugiho, and if he doesn't expand early as fck on such a big map he will get absolutely destroyed by a zerg going for economy. Well, for Terran CC first is greed, for Zerg fast 3 Hatch on no units is standard. Blizzard did crew up big time with that queen buff. I guess we have to wait for a metagame shift or another to make TvZ as good of a matchup as it was before that patch.
Euhm I really liked your LR yesterday.. Thats why im having problems with this whine.. Didn't expect it. Like a fast 3 hatch on no units is a build that is not reactionary.. Zerg never 3 hatches fast if the other race doesn't play greedy (CC first/FFE).
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On June 19 2012 19:35 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:34 liberate71 wrote:On June 19 2012 19:33 Douillos wrote:On June 19 2012 19:31 AbuntuGuntu wrote:On June 19 2012 19:30 teddyoojo wrote:On June 19 2012 19:28 gh0stsquall wrote:On June 19 2012 19:26 teddyoojo wrote: sc2 - where yugioh beats marineking .....this makes absoloutely no sense at all. emphasizing on how much sense it makes for yugioh to beat mkp :> You realize how good Yugioh is right? Not good enough to be in same phrase as MKP frankly Unless the phrase is "Yugioh is beating MKP 1:0" ? Or the phrase "Yugioh knows that MKP is weak in the early game, as therefore he uses that for the win"
Or the phrase "Yugioh knocked MKP into the up and down matches in one the best series of last season?"
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cc first or die tryin. looks like mkp thinks it´s the only chance to keep up with zerg macro.
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"Atoms are made out of dots."
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On June 19 2012 19:36 KiNGxXx wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3Jx0z.jpg) Thats a masterpiece!
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whoah MKP lost a marine to two lings?
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You should always throw atleast one cheese into a series vs MKP. He will always see if he gets away with greedy play vs his opponents
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On June 19 2012 19:30 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 19:29 kyllinghest wrote: People talking about greed: He only expanded once, same as Yugiho, and if he doesn't expand early as fck on such a big map he will get absolutely destroyed by a zerg going for economy. He didn't wall off his ramp. If banes had to be wasted on blowing up the depots to get in then he'd have had a much easier time microing marines and hellions against the rest. Instead lings ran straight into the base for a full surround and banes waddled up to detonate on whatever they wanted. I agree with you he should have walled in, but that would have delayed the low ground wall and made it harder to hold a later roach bane attack. I don't know, I just feel like the terrans die to so much lately, perhaps it could be possible to churn out a reaper to scout with before expanding? They need a new way to play, not an extra depot in a wall.
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Nice, again a greedy unsafe build. 1 bust and he dies tt.
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