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On June 14 2012 22:22 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 21:59 Mackus wrote:
Tasteless and Wolf casting together for first time tomorrow, Wolf doesnt strike me as the analytical caster so 2 of the same type casters could go wrong as much I'd like it to work Seriously? Wolf is one of the best analytical casters out there. Listening to his solo casts, he does an amazing job of explaining why players are doing what they are doing, and (imo) he does an even better job of it than Artosis,
That's only when he's flying solo though. When he's teamed up with other people, he tends to cast a lot worse than he should.
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On June 14 2012 22:29 iky43210 wrote:
why does artosis hate mvp? every prediction he made without interference by others = mvp loses
He does not hate him, there is just only room for one IM player god in his heart.
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On June 14 2012 22:22 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 21:59 Mackus wrote:
Tasteless and Wolf casting together for first time tomorrow, Wolf doesnt strike me as the analytical caster so 2 of the same type casters could go wrong as much I'd like it to work Seriously? Wolf is one of the best analytical casters out there. Listening to his solo casts, he does an amazing job of explaining why players are doing what they are doing, and (imo) he does an even better job of it than Artosis,
Well, I definatly wouldnt say hes as good as the top tier analytical casters like artosis and appollo.. I find wolf calls things wrong plenty. I guess thats pretty subjective though. He still belongs on a tier below them imo but well above tasteless that still seems to think muta/ling/bling is the ZvT norm :p
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On June 14 2012 22:30 KanoCoke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 22:22 hfxRos wrote:On June 14 2012 21:59 Mackus wrote:
Tasteless and Wolf casting together for first time tomorrow, Wolf doesnt strike me as the analytical caster so 2 of the same type casters could go wrong as much I'd like it to work Seriously? Wolf is one of the best analytical casters out there. Listening to his solo casts, he does an amazing job of explaining why players are doing what they are doing, and (imo) he does an even better job of it than Artosis, That's only when he's flying solo though. When he's teamed up with other people, he tends to cast a lot worse than he should.
Are you serious? Even his solo casts are not great analysis. He doesn't have the build/metagame knowledge that Artosis does, because hes low masters and doesn't even play that much. I get that people are jumping off the artosis train onto the up and comers, and I like wolf a lot but people are seriously overestimating his analysis.
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On June 14 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:tried whipping up a quick one what do you guys think? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mO1dg.jpg)
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Sick sick sick banner opterown!!
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On June 14 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:tried whipping up a quick one what do you guys think?
looking REALLY awesome!! nice job man!
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On June 14 2012 22:54 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:tried whipping up a quick one what do you guys think? looking REALLY awesome!! nice job man!
pretty smooth indeed
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On June 14 2012 22:29 doffe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 20:58 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 14 2012 20:56 suspectTV wrote:On June 14 2012 20:55 Tanngrisnir wrote:On June 14 2012 20:50 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 14 2012 20:43 Tanngrisnir wrote:
When are they going to fix Terran? So tired of seeing brilliant terran players beeing forced into mainly cheesing or taking huge riscs because it just isnt viable to play long interesting games with terran. Mvp tries from time to time against players far lesser then himself but usually doesnt go so well.
The hell is going on in that blizzard office? Cant you see the terran race is terrible? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oWfLYh.png) ^ @ PvT, just sayin' Why do you post this image? It has nothing to do with my post. I think you meant: "Why did you post factual data? It's totally ruins my uniformed rant." Something like that, yes something like what? Its hilarious how people doesnt seem to underestand that winrates have NOTHING to do with what he complained about. He doesnt say terrans cant win, he's complaining about the way terran is forced to play.. forced to go away from the lategame or atleast forced to do tons of damage and getting there with a huge advantage. Even blizzard themselves have stated this to be the case in this so called "asymmetric balance" sillyness. If say 6pool is super super effective but anything but 6pool simply sucks. if as a result of this zergs still get 50% winratio is the game supposed to be called balanced? well yes in a way, but is it GOOD balance... not even close. This example is ofc exaggerated but contains the basics about what people feel is the problem with TvP and I as a spectator (and a zerg) agree.. thats certinly what it looks like. His rant wasnt uninformed, his rant had simply nothing to do with winrates. His point remains true even with a 100% terran winrate.. if you agree or not is another thing but dont post statistics that is not relevant. Relevant statistics would be winrates based on periods in the game. Or rather winrates based on what supplies the engagements started.. 200v200 I doubt the stats looks nearly as good as that for terran... Im quite sure they pretty grim. TvP is broken.. it might be terran favoured as a whole, probably is looking at the stats but its still broken.. Just as ZvP lategame is broken being all about landing or not landing that one vortex. balanced a game can be without being good balance from either a competative or a spectating PoV! cheers!
Thank you very much for clarifying this for everyone. However, I don't think we're going to see a fix to this severe of a problem before HotS.
I really can't wait to see how warhounds/battle hellions tip the scales of lategame TvP... chargelot spam somewhat alleviated, and I think warhound missiles killing any colossus around (or stalkers, allowing vikings to freely kill colossus) will help fix the HT/Colossus vs. Terran dynamic. We'll see. I can't wait to see the crazyness that the first HotS season will be... Gonna be some sick imba strats on the scene.
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On June 14 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:tried whipping up a quick one what do you guys think?
ToD and MKP looking bad ass as they should. Nice
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Why is mkp disproportionally larger than the rest? Is that an [un]subtle implication of an all-kill?
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On June 14 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:tried whipping up a quick one what do you guys think?
well as long as its not generic.
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On June 14 2012 23:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:tried whipping up a quick one what do you guys think? well as long as its not generic.
better generic than an mspaint banner 
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On June 14 2012 23:22 spbelky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 22:29 doffe wrote:On June 14 2012 20:58 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 14 2012 20:56 suspectTV wrote:On June 14 2012 20:55 Tanngrisnir wrote:On June 14 2012 20:50 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 14 2012 20:43 Tanngrisnir wrote:
When are they going to fix Terran? So tired of seeing brilliant terran players beeing forced into mainly cheesing or taking huge riscs because it just isnt viable to play long interesting games with terran. Mvp tries from time to time against players far lesser then himself but usually doesnt go so well.
The hell is going on in that blizzard office? Cant you see the terran race is terrible? ^ @ PvT, just sayin' Why do you post this image? It has nothing to do with my post. I think you meant: "Why did you post factual data? It's totally ruins my uniformed rant." Something like that, yes something like what? Its hilarious how people doesnt seem to underestand that winrates have NOTHING to do with what he complained about. He doesnt say terrans cant win, he's complaining about the way terran is forced to play.. forced to go away from the lategame or atleast forced to do tons of damage and getting there with a huge advantage. Even blizzard themselves have stated this to be the case in this so called "asymmetric balance" sillyness. If say 6pool is super super effective but anything but 6pool simply sucks. if as a result of this zergs still get 50% winratio is the game supposed to be called balanced? well yes in a way, but is it GOOD balance... not even close. This example is ofc exaggerated but contains the basics about what people feel is the problem with TvP and I as a spectator (and a zerg) agree.. thats certinly what it looks like. His rant wasnt uninformed, his rant had simply nothing to do with winrates. His point remains true even with a 100% terran winrate.. if you agree or not is another thing but dont post statistics that is not relevant. Relevant statistics would be winrates based on periods in the game. Or rather winrates based on what supplies the engagements started.. 200v200 I doubt the stats looks nearly as good as that for terran... Im quite sure they pretty grim. TvP is broken.. it might be terran favoured as a whole, probably is looking at the stats but its still broken.. Just as ZvP lategame is broken being all about landing or not landing that one vortex. balanced a game can be without being good balance from either a competative or a spectating PoV! cheers! Thank you very much for clarifying this for everyone. However, I don't think we're going to see a fix to this severe of a problem before HotS. I really can't wait to see how warhounds/battle hellions tip the scales of lategame TvP... chargelot spam somewhat alleviated, and I think warhound missiles killing any colossus around (or stalkers, allowing vikings to freely kill colossus) will help fix the HT/Colossus vs. Terran dynamic. We'll see. I can't wait to see the crazyness that the first HotS season will be... Gonna be some sick imba strats on the scene.
I have a feeling those units won't really change it very much. The battle hellion probably won't be used all that much simply because even with it being slightly harder to kill colossi will still be able to destroy them. Warhound might be useful but I'm not really sure yet.
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fuck yea genius the best!
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