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This is not the place to talk about LoL viewership.

This is also not a place to caster bash/balance whine/flame, etc.

Please don't argue about how many views LoL has, or which game is better, or we will be upset.
(added page 174)

Also, lay off Scarlett please. (added page 227)
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
April 07 2012 13:32 GMT
#11641
On April 07 2012 22:26 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:23 chroniX wrote:
Wow , i think we can easily say now that the skill gap is as huge as it was in BW.

Don't exaggerate, it's definitely not that bad


Okay maybe a small exaggeration. But it sure is on the way there.
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
April 07 2012 13:35 GMT
#11642
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
April 07 2012 13:37 GMT
#11643
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
April 07 2012 13:37 GMT
#11644
On April 06 2012 20:51 Winsti wrote:
[image loading]

If only....T_T
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 13:40:57
April 07 2012 13:38 GMT
#11645
Wow Scarlett beat Terious, Ddoro, and Demuslim and took a game off Oz? That is pretty awesome.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
April 07 2012 13:39 GMT
#11646
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.


What kind of logic is that lol? And I will repeat once again. He lost to MKP and MMA's TvZ is better than MKP's. He can't beat MMA
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
April 07 2012 13:40 GMT
#11647
On April 07 2012 22:31 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


He lost to MKP, he can't beat MMA



MKP is the best terran atm imo. He owned DRG twice recently.
oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
April 07 2012 13:40 GMT
#11648
On April 07 2012 22:39 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.


What kind of logic is that lol? And I will repeat once again. He lost to MKP and MMA's TvZ is better than MKP's. He can't beat MMA

Oh right, he lost 2-1 to MKP in close games, that means he just ''can`t'' beat MMA, right?
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
April 07 2012 13:41 GMT
#11649
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.


Stephano's games so far have relied on his opponent making a mistake. That isn't going to happen, especially against TvZ experts like Jjakji and MMA.

At the Iron Squid, stephano was stomped by Jjakji then forfeited to MMA. I wonder why?
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 13:43:41
April 07 2012 13:42 GMT
#11650
On April 07 2012 22:40 maracuja123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:39 Linwelin wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.


What kind of logic is that lol? And I will repeat once again. He lost to MKP and MMA's TvZ is better than MKP's. He can't beat MMA

Oh right, he lost 2-1 to MKP in close games, that means he just ''can`t'' beat MMA, right?


And of course it means he can just beat MMA right?
Edit: In case you don't understand, this argument will go nowhere
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
April 07 2012 13:45 GMT
#11651
On April 07 2012 22:42 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:40 maracuja123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:39 Linwelin wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.


What kind of logic is that lol? And I will repeat once again. He lost to MKP and MMA's TvZ is better than MKP's. He can't beat MMA

Oh right, he lost 2-1 to MKP in close games, that means he just ''can`t'' beat MMA, right?


And of course it means he can just beat MMA right?

You have reading problems. As I said, and I`ll repeat, If Stephano is capable of beating Polt, he does have a chance to win against MMA.

halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
April 07 2012 13:47 GMT
#11652
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.

no one has the same winrate in every matchup.
best TvZer =/= best TvTer. his logic is absolutely sound.
and the reason he might struggle against MMA is that his TvZ winrate is 80%, which is absolutely ridiculously good, and its against players like DRG, who isnt exactly bad at SC2
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#11653
Of course Stephano has a chance of winning... that chance is very small though
vOkk
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium576 Posts
April 07 2012 14:29 GMT
#11654
IPL is now IGN Korean League
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
April 07 2012 14:42 GMT
#11655
I heard koreans are pretty good.. not like is a bad thing is cool to have code s in vegas :D
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 07 2012 14:57 GMT
#11656
On April 07 2012 22:26 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:23 chroniX wrote:
Wow , i think we can easily say now that the skill gap is as huge as it was in BW.

Don't exaggerate, it's definitely not that bad


it's getting there though
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
April 07 2012 15:01 GMT
#11657
So... Does winning IPL4 count as a GSL win? I mean--there isnt much difference.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
April 07 2012 15:02 GMT
#11658
spoiler free vods are here

http://www.reddit.com/r/SpoilerFreeSC/comments/rwo2w/ongoing_even_ipl4_las_vegas_2012/
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 15:15:02
April 07 2012 15:12 GMT
#11659
On April 07 2012 22:39 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 22:37 maracuja123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:35 SkimGuy wrote:
On April 07 2012 22:29 maracuja123 wrote:
I`m not really a fan of watching koreans playing. Yes, I find boring and it`s my opinion/style.

But I can`t wait to see Stephano playing. He really has a good shot to WIN the ENTIRE tournament. If he can beat Polt, why can`t he beat players like MMA (who struggles against Polt), Jjakki, Bomber, etc.?

I think the only players Stephano isn`t capable of beat is Nestea and probably, probably, MC (but Stephano`s ZXP got so much better since last HSC).


Because TvZ and TvT are different matchups?

Because Stephano can beat one of the best terrans in the world and can beat the other one?

Your logic fails. Saying MMA vs Polt was just a simple example.


What kind of logic is that lol? And I will repeat once again. He lost to MKP and MMA's TvZ is better than MKP's. He can't beat MMA


No, it's not?? I have no idea why you're throwing it out there like it's a fact, you have nothing to back this up. Especially considering MMa ahsn't played much lately whereas MarineKing has, and has beaten every Zerg.


Not to mention they play completely different styles. Stephano might be better against MMA's style which revolves more around gimmicky dropping and Stephano has shown he's good against that.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 07 2012 15:15 GMT
#11660
On April 08 2012 00:01 lorkac wrote:
So... Does winning IPL4 count as a GSL win? I mean--there isnt much difference.


maybe even harder as you can't prepare/study opponents as deeply, gsl is still the daddy though
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