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Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
January 05 2012 06:22 GMT
#61
On January 05 2012 15:02 trinxified wrote:
ZvZ is a guaranteed fail of a finals. Can't be worse than any of the other mirror matchups.

Even PvP is more appealing... Sadly, it's very rare to see PvP finals because of racial imbalance.

ZvZ is really entertaining, PvP has a hard time keeping up in my mind...zvz is a micro war at the beg of the game to see if they don't make any micro mistakes, if they do it gets messy. And macro can be lingblingmuta vs roachhydra into infests for both. It's like TvT biovsmech zerg style.

Also I agree P needs to be figured out. T.T
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 06:26:47
January 05 2012 06:24 GMT
#62
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!!

[image loading]


Seeker, could you add this under hype?
:D
moo...for DRG
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 05 2012 06:27 GMT
#63
On January 05 2012 15:22 Bippzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 15:02 trinxified wrote:
ZvZ is a guaranteed fail of a finals. Can't be worse than any of the other mirror matchups.

Even PvP is more appealing... Sadly, it's very rare to see PvP finals because of racial imbalance.

ZvZ is really entertaining, PvP has a hard time keeping up in my mind...zvz is a micro war at the beg of the game to see if they don't make any micro mistakes, if they do it gets messy. And macro can be lingblingmuta vs roachhydra into infests for both. It's like TvT biovsmech zerg style.

Also I agree P needs to be figured out. T.T


I agree, as a spectator who has never played the game before, I thoroughly enjoy watching high calibre ZvZ
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 05 2012 06:32 GMT
#64
For BoX, ZvZ rewards player skill. If one player is so much better than the other, it will result in a 1sided stomp. If both are equally matched (both mindgames and mechanics), it can be beautiful to watch. Transition from 1 of the most mechanically demanding phase into a dynamic mid-game. Mutas, hydras, infestors are all viable. Both going roach infestors are pretty boring though if the map doesn't allow for multi-pronged attacks.
DRG definitely has an edge going into this series. No zergs would ever want to play with him in a low eco baneling game, and it could be helpful for his meta-gaming.
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
January 05 2012 06:35 GMT
#65
On January 05 2012 15:22 Bippzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 15:02 trinxified wrote:
ZvZ is a guaranteed fail of a finals. Can't be worse than any of the other mirror matchups.

Even PvP is more appealing... Sadly, it's very rare to see PvP finals because of racial imbalance.

ZvZ is really entertaining, PvP has a hard time keeping up in my mind...zvz is a micro war at the beg of the game to see if they don't make any micro mistakes, if they do it gets messy. And macro can be lingblingmuta vs roachhydra into infests for both. It's like TvT biovsmech zerg style.

Also I agree P needs to be figured out. T.T

I feel like PvP is one of the most technical match ups. Scouting is more important than in any other match up. Miss one pylon and you can lose. Miss a tech switch, you lose. Then there's the fat that up until the 10 minute mark or so losing a single unit can lose you the game. Then you add in the power for micro has a incredibly large impact on every fight and its a really complex, interesting match up.

Sadly, to non-protoss players a lot of this isn't apparent because they just see short stomp games and don't necessarily get the significance of a lot of stuff.
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
January 05 2012 06:59 GMT
#66
drg is too good imo
only mvp nestea leenock mma can beat him
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 05 2012 07:00 GMT
#67
On January 05 2012 15:24 neoghaleon55 wrote:
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!!

[image loading]


Seeker, could you add this under hype?
:D


Ahahahaha, I wasn't hyped then this popped up =D
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Lisitsa
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)29 Posts
January 05 2012 07:06 GMT
#68
I am a P player, but as far as spectating goes I'd always take ZvZ over PvP. Personal preferance, I suppose.
BW Zerg / SC2 Protoss
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
January 05 2012 07:09 GMT
#69
BO7 ZvZ, gonna be short. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 05 2012 07:35 GMT
#70
Well DRG will go for low econ aggression like he always does, if Losira can def that i see him taking these series. If not this Bo7 won't take long.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
January 05 2012 07:38 GMT
#71
Dunno if someone asked this already but.... Does anyone know what happened to YellOw??? Did he quit SC2 after not making Code A? -_-
I hope he's still playing...
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Xacalite
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany533 Posts
January 05 2012 07:39 GMT
#72
july isnt playing. ZvZs longer than 5 minutes are guaranteed.
I feel fear...for the last time
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
January 05 2012 07:39 GMT
#73
On January 05 2012 16:38 Shinta) wrote:
Dunno if someone asked this already but.... Does anyone know what happened to YellOw??? Did he quit SC2 after not making Code A? -_-
I hope he's still playing...


He quit.
He's playing professional poker now, last I read about him.
moo...for DRG
TdX
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore290 Posts
January 05 2012 07:53 GMT
#74
Winner becomes the King of Kong.
Loser the Kong of Kong
GGGGGGGGGGG
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 08:05:37
January 05 2012 08:05 GMT
#75
It's kinda odd to call DRG a kong...seeing how (right now) he has a legitimate chance to break "#2" (in the gsl)...so losira should get the title of kong, since he'll get 2nd place of this tournament? :DDDDD/
Turn it Up
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
January 05 2012 08:23 GMT
#76
On January 05 2012 15:24 neoghaleon55 wrote:
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Seeker, could you add this under hype?
:D

............ uhh........ wha...... the...... fu-.......?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
January 05 2012 08:28 GMT
#77
2 men will enter the Arena....... 2 men will leave
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
January 05 2012 08:28 GMT
#78
On January 05 2012 17:23 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 15:24 neoghaleon55 wrote:
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Seeker, could you add this under hype?
:D

............ uhh........ wha...... the...... fu-.......?


Oh please, it's not as if DRG's never went drag before...





OMG!
DR[A]G..........
Everything makes so much sense now!
moo...for DRG
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 05 2012 08:31 GMT
#79
No MKP

He is the true King of Kong's


Still looking forward to the games though!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
January 05 2012 08:45 GMT
#80
....... I'm not even gonna do the Kpop today.... It's the same damn playlist from yesterday/day before
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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