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Zhazulo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden226 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#741
OMG, SO HAWT! POOOOOLT!

SEXY NERD BALLER
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#742
On November 29 2011 19:20 Fionn wrote:
"He won a tournament in Brood War."

lol :D
artosis said that? im not watching now im at work
Stork[gm]
babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#743
On November 29 2011 19:19 Dommk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:05 Dommk wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Had alicia spent his money earlier on blink instead of a "cute" sentry play that killed 2-3 overlords.... =/

That "cute" sentry play left Losira with 38 Drones ;o

Alicia probably would have crushed any other lesser Zerg, but Losira is better than Alicia.

Meh, either way still a long way to go. All I can think about watching Protoss play PvZ these days is how Hero would have done it better, need more Hero's

Hero has a good PvZ style, but come on, his record against actual good zergs isn't that great. Hard to say if he could win a series against someone of Losira's caliber.

It is more of the way he play PvZ.

Most Protoss these days seem to be doing dead end builds that either work or get hard countered and fail. Every race has these builds, but due to the way Protoss is designed, the builds tend to be more dead end with Protoss than the other races.

Hero's gameplan is something that I've yet to see any other Protoss achive, the way he plays PvZ isn't built around gimmicks or timings--he has a solid understanding of what to do in the match up, when to take expansions, when to tech, when to harass, when to get a mothership.

These are a lot of things that are lacking from most Protoss. An important thing to note though is when someone goes down the path that Hero did with his playstyle, they tend to lose more games than they win at the start because they have to figure out everything by themselves, all the nuances that bring it all together.

Hero was losing a lot more before, but now hes at a point where he looks unstoppable. As Artosis said, he is one of the few players that every time you watch him play you can feel that he has improved a lot from previous matches.



Well said. Hero is so unique and I love watching his play.

On November 29 2011 19:19 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:09 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:06 Jehct wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:04 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:02 Exactable wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:01 AsnSensation wrote:
Seriously although im protoss, Alicia deserves to lose still stuck in 2 base playonly


I really think the foreigner Protoss (Hero, Huk and Naniwa in particular) are leading the way in terms of innovation and just overall quality of play. I can hardly name a Protoss in Code S that makes me go wow when I see them play.


Naniwa just did 2 base builds at MLG, just did them better than Alicia. Hero isn't a foreigner.

Naniwa opened with timing attacks but transitioned afterwards (or straight up killed/lost the game a few times). Alicia totally missed timing windows to transition (or kill); it was like he had no idea how to play beyond 2bases.

2base play & timings have their place - they even happen in the holy grail of ZvT - just not the way Alicia did it.


2 base play is 2 base play.
That's all naniwa did at mlg in pvz.

Count how many nexus he had at the end of each game. Then stop talking strategy until your understanding is less shallow. A timing attack and an all-in are different, but both are done from 2 bases.


Right..
I would bet I have a better understanding than you.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#744
ForGG..won a tournament in broodwar.. )
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#745
On November 29 2011 19:21 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:20 Fionn wrote:
"He won a tournament in Brood War."

lol :D
artosis said that? im not watching now im at work


Artosis knows this shit, i'm sure he wouldn't say such thing. But no, it was Moletrap.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#746
GOGO fOrGG <3
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#747
On November 29 2011 19:20 Asha` wrote:
Ryung is doing the Jjakji build
Ryung is doing the Jjakji build
Ryung is doing the Jjakji build

!!!

Not surprising.
He'll 111 or use any non bio build, as he can't micro.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37117 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#748
On November 29 2011 19:19 BWVanguard wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:15 Seeker wrote:
IMPORTANT NOTICE: PLEASE READ!!!

GOM streams tend to lag for some reason, therefore when the casters go on break and come back (cause u need to be able to hear to know if you're fast forwarding or not), hit "c" on your computer to fast forward, when you hear the noises start to skip, then hit "z" to return back to 1.0x speed

IMPORTANT NOTICE: PLEASE READ!!!


Thanks Seeker!


You're Welcome ^^
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#749
The Pretender on youtube, Gom muted. awwww yeaaaahh
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#750
ForGG fighting!!!!!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#751
Polt is legit Code S. We will see how good ForGG is after this. DAYBREAK coming up!
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#752
PARK JI SOO~! PARK JI SOO~! PARK JI SOO~!
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#753
On November 29 2011 19:21 Arceus wrote:
He won a muthafreakin MSL Moletrap !


Moletrap's memory is insanely bad. I think he casted those games.
MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#754
Fuck i want them both to win, this must be possible somehow
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#755
Don't you guys think Polt is the SC2 version of ForGG?

Terran
Strong timing
one time champion against everyone's favorites
in a state of trance
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 10:25:38
November 29 2011 10:22 GMT
#756
On November 29 2011 19:21 babo213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:19 Dommk wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:05 Dommk wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Had alicia spent his money earlier on blink instead of a "cute" sentry play that killed 2-3 overlords.... =/

That "cute" sentry play left Losira with 38 Drones ;o

Alicia probably would have crushed any other lesser Zerg, but Losira is better than Alicia.

Meh, either way still a long way to go. All I can think about watching Protoss play PvZ these days is how Hero would have done it better, need more Hero's

Hero has a good PvZ style, but come on, his record against actual good zergs isn't that great. Hard to say if he could win a series against someone of Losira's caliber.

It is more of the way he play PvZ.

Most Protoss these days seem to be doing dead end builds that either work or get hard countered and fail. Every race has these builds, but due to the way Protoss is designed, the builds tend to be more dead end with Protoss than the other races.

Hero's gameplan is something that I've yet to see any other Protoss achive, the way he plays PvZ isn't built around gimmicks or timings--he has a solid understanding of what to do in the match up, when to take expansions, when to tech, when to harass, when to get a mothership.

These are a lot of things that are lacking from most Protoss. An important thing to note though is when someone goes down the path that Hero did with his playstyle, they tend to lose more games than they win at the start because they have to figure out everything by themselves, all the nuances that bring it all together.

Hero was losing a lot more before, but now hes at a point where he looks unstoppable. As Artosis said, he is one of the few players that every time you watch him play you can feel that he has improved a lot from previous matches.



Well said. Hero is so unique and I love watching his play.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:19 Jehct wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:09 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:06 Jehct wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:04 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:02 Exactable wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:01 AsnSensation wrote:
Seriously although im protoss, Alicia deserves to lose still stuck in 2 base playonly


I really think the foreigner Protoss (Hero, Huk and Naniwa in particular) are leading the way in terms of innovation and just overall quality of play. I can hardly name a Protoss in Code S that makes me go wow when I see them play.


Naniwa just did 2 base builds at MLG, just did them better than Alicia. Hero isn't a foreigner.

Naniwa opened with timing attacks but transitioned afterwards (or straight up killed/lost the game a few times). Alicia totally missed timing windows to transition (or kill); it was like he had no idea how to play beyond 2bases.

2base play & timings have their place - they even happen in the holy grail of ZvT - just not the way Alicia did it.


2 base play is 2 base play.
That's all naniwa did at mlg in pvz.

Count how many nexus he had at the end of each game. Then stop talking strategy until your understanding is less shallow. A timing attack and an all-in are different, but both are done from 2 bases.


Right..
I would bet I have a better understanding than you.

What an insightful and useful post. I hope the rest are of such quality
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37117 Posts
November 29 2011 10:23 GMT
#757
Quick Question:

Stream 1 is live

Is Stream 2 always replays that are just casted?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 29 2011 10:23 GMT
#758
SC1 BW PRO VS. WC3 AMATEUR
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
November 29 2011 10:23 GMT
#759
OGS PEEN
Zhazulo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden226 Posts
November 29 2011 10:23 GMT
#760
Everyone, enjoy this awesome TvT ^^
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