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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#701
Beat him up, Polt.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#702
On November 29 2011 19:14 dapierow wrote:
whats the song called right now? i wanna youtube it

+ Show Spoiler +


On November 29 2011 19:12 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:09 Juliette wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:08 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:04 Hall0wed wrote:
FUCK YEAH ST_LEGEND KNOWS HIS WOMEN


SNSD tiem nao! <3 Legend. Proof that he knows his women:

[image loading]

he's amazing.


wait but this isn't them shouting "bring da bois out"

I bet he picks hyuna next



He is a legend among men.

Mr. Taxi is a great pick, probably 4minute/Hyuna next break.

we can only wait!


omg its back. polt, forgg. HYPE
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#703
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#704
oh brown is on. That should be interesting.
twitch.tv/medrea
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#705
So time to see if fOrGG is really Code S level.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#706
All K-Pop songs sound the same to me. Well here you go ForGG vs Polt!!!.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#707
There are 4 lights ROFL
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#708
On November 29 2011 19:14 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:12 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:11 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:09 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:06 Jehct wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:04 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:02 Exactable wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:01 AsnSensation wrote:
Seriously although im protoss, Alicia deserves to lose still stuck in 2 base playonly


I really think the foreigner Protoss (Hero, Huk and Naniwa in particular) are leading the way in terms of innovation and just overall quality of play. I can hardly name a Protoss in Code S that makes me go wow when I see them play.


Naniwa just did 2 base builds at MLG, just did them better than Alicia. Hero isn't a foreigner.

Naniwa opened with timing attacks but transitioned afterwards (or straight up killed/lost the game a few times). Alicia totally missed timing windows to transition (or kill); it was like he had no idea how to play beyond 2bases.

2base play & timings have their place - they even happen in the holy grail of ZvT - just not the way Alicia did it.


2 base play is 2 base play.
That's all naniwa did at mlg in pvz.


You shouldnt define someones style by how many primary structures they had down next to mineral patches.

I mean Leenock won and half the finals was him having only one.


Leenock did roach ling busts since Naniwa always opened FFE.

And he showed throughout MLG he had a variety of styles he can play.


Right well PvZ right now is defined by 2 base pressuring. 1 Base pressure normally doesnt do enough damage and 3 bases means you have let the zerg do whatever he wants.

I mean Naniwa puts thirds down once the 2 base attack checks the zerg. Heck, all of them do.


The only game he put a third down was on shakura's and he was far far ahead
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#709
No, fuck this replay. Give me Polt/fOrGG
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#710
On November 29 2011 19:15 Fionn wrote:
Beat him up, Polt.

ic what u did there, you use your curse on Polt and ForGG wins ? :D
Stork[gm]
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#711
POLT AND BRWN, CRUSH YOUR OPPONENTS PLEASE
So I can go out light hearted.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#712
PARK JI SOO HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 29 2011 10:16 GMT
#713
On November 29 2011 19:16 babo213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:14 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:12 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:11 Medrea wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:09 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:06 Jehct wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:04 babo213 wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:02 Exactable wrote:
On November 29 2011 19:01 AsnSensation wrote:
Seriously although im protoss, Alicia deserves to lose still stuck in 2 base playonly


I really think the foreigner Protoss (Hero, Huk and Naniwa in particular) are leading the way in terms of innovation and just overall quality of play. I can hardly name a Protoss in Code S that makes me go wow when I see them play.


Naniwa just did 2 base builds at MLG, just did them better than Alicia. Hero isn't a foreigner.

Naniwa opened with timing attacks but transitioned afterwards (or straight up killed/lost the game a few times). Alicia totally missed timing windows to transition (or kill); it was like he had no idea how to play beyond 2bases.

2base play & timings have their place - they even happen in the holy grail of ZvT - just not the way Alicia did it.


2 base play is 2 base play.
That's all naniwa did at mlg in pvz.


You shouldnt define someones style by how many primary structures they had down next to mineral patches.

I mean Leenock won and half the finals was him having only one.


Leenock did roach ling busts since Naniwa always opened FFE.

And he showed throughout MLG he had a variety of styles he can play.


Right well PvZ right now is defined by 2 base pressuring. 1 Base pressure normally doesnt do enough damage and 3 bases means you have let the zerg do whatever he wants.

I mean Naniwa puts thirds down once the 2 base attack checks the zerg. Heck, all of them do.


The only game he put a third down was on shakura's and he was far far ahead


Thats generally the point.
twitch.tv/medrea
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
November 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#714
On November 29 2011 19:05 Dommk wrote:
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On November 29 2011 19:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Had alicia spent his money earlier on blink instead of a "cute" sentry play that killed 2-3 overlords.... =/

That "cute" sentry play left Losira with 38 Drones ;o

Alicia probably would have crushed any other lesser Zerg, but Losira is better than Alicia.

Meh, either way still a long way to go. All I can think about watching Protoss play PvZ these days is how Hero would have done it better, need more Hero's



No, it was just bad.

1. Alicia absolutely could have won that game several times and just didn't. He could have permanently forcefielded the ramp and destroyed all the tech. This is why Losira pulled all the drones and attacked sentries. However, Alicia never even warped in a third sentry.

2. For a moment I thought Alicia was just using the zealots to kill off the spores. With 2-3 phoenix and the 2 void rays he already had this would also have allowed him to kill off the main. Losira had no anti air; he had chosen to upgrade roaches rather than get hydras or any other tech. Of course, Alicia hadn't made any more air, so the queens were more than enough and his killing the spore really accomplished very little.

This suggests his warp into the main was probably an impromptu decision based on the opportunity presenting itself rather than a a planned build. Had it been his plan all along, one of these options would have allowed him to turn it into a game ender. Of course, another option is to just use this attack to keep zerg pinned back and force units while he takes a third, but that didn't happen either.

3. He could absolutely have taken out the third. There was at least one clear point towards the end where 2 good forcefields would have cut off the roaches. This is a standard options as 2 forcefields placed between the hatch and the ramp makes it basically impossible to engage. This is something you can see often in pressure builds. The zerg is forced to either go around and thus fully commit their army or back off and wait for the hatch to die. Alicia didn't do this, but he showed a few seconds later that he did have forcefields available.

Throughout all of this Alicia was often floating 1k minerals and several hundred gas. That means that even with his poor tactics, he might have been able to win with just macro.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#715
On November 29 2011 19:16 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:15 Fionn wrote:
Beat him up, Polt.

ic what u did there, you use your curse on Polt and ForGG wins ? :D


No, Polt will literally beat up ForGG.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
November 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#716
Who's Alicia ??
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 10:17:58
November 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#717
On November 29 2011 19:16 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 19:15 Fionn wrote:
Beat him up, Polt.

ic what u did there, you use your curse on Polt and ForGG wins ? :D


You seem to have no idea what Fionn thinks of Polt.

And yes, I'm supporting his statement fully. MARAUDERS!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#718
Some phoenixes would have been very good for Alicia after the initial void rays.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#719
well well well, replay shows how clever Losira actualy is, he played bad first game but game 3 his run by on crusial moments saved him the game.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 29 2011 10:18 GMT
#720
People seem to be really underestimating Polt just because his opponent is ForGG. Polt has no doubt been going HARD at the TSL house, I really don't see ForGG beating him.
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