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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Lakai
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada315 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9101
Should have stalled longer. Puma wasn't being all that aggressive with the push and any delay is a benefit to kiwi. If he brought the fight back to his nat slowly and had the immortals closer to the front he might have had that.
HerO - Minigun - MaNa - Puzzle - NonY - Axslav - MKP - DeMusliM - SeleCT - LosirA
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9102
Bad engagement by Kiwi. Should've waited it out rather than walking directly into a siege line.
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9103
The longer he would have waited, the more marines though. Puma had enough tanks, its the high marine count because of mules that makes this push so strong
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9104
On August 28 2011 11:01 jyLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him.

LOL you're a joke.

he's a joke if he gives a shit about what you had to say about him.

he likes what players he likes, who the fuck are you to tell him what he should think.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9105
On August 28 2011 11:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:
lol@all these comments bitching about balance. sickening.

that result was due to Kiwi getting impatient and just a-moving into the siege group. Go figure. He had the middle of the map in stand-off mode, had better economy, etc...

Kiwi won't blame that loss on a build order or TERRAN IMBA!! QQ!! - He'll blame it on a poor engagement.


I dunno about "sickening" lol.

People are just angry / frustrated from a spectator standpoint.
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9106
gotta love the 111
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:04:00
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9107
On August 28 2011 11:00 Yaotzin wrote:
Thanks Kiwi for showing us yet another method of holding a 1/1/1 that doesn't work. I guess it's useful for completeness's sake :D


As edison said, Protoss didn't fail 9999 times, they have succeeded in finding 9999 methods that do not work against 1-1-1"

=p
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:03:32
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9108
On August 28 2011 11:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:01 Piledriver wrote:
GG

+ Show Spoiler +
If I was kiwikaki, I would have punched Puma in the face for being a douche.

How is going and shaking your opponent's hand after a game being a douche? wtf

dont mind him he is a bad guy
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9109
Lol... Here comes the 1/1/1 imba posts when Kiwi just had to stall longer...

He was getting a good enough composition to beat it if he just stalled longer and warped in more stalkers.

And WHY would he pick Xelnaga when 1/1/1 is so strong on that map... I can't figure his thought process.
I love crazymoving
Moragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States355 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9110
On August 28 2011 11:00 EnderCraft wrote:
Do you think he should have bided more time TT1? He knew that he already pulled a bunch of SCV's. Why not sit back a bit more and get out a ton of more units and overwhelm Puma.


Yes, because unupgraded gateway units and immortals are going to stop an endless swarm of mule marines.
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9111
I'm questioning Kiwi's decision to engage there, Puma had pulled all his SCV's so shouldn't Kiwi have waited as long as humanly possible and backed let Puma come to him instead of going for it. I don't know that just didn't seem like the right move.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9112
CoCa vs PuMa and it should be Bomber vs DRG right? Not Bomber vs SeleCt
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9113
On August 28 2011 11:01 Mycl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:00 Doraemon wrote:
On August 28 2011 10:59 MechKing wrote:
Puma has no shame


shame about winning? lol...


But at what cost?!?!

You play to win...
Playing to please the LR thread is not a good idea.
Asmodeusz
Profile Joined August 2011
193 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9114
Great games, but damn protoss players have to learn flanking ;(
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9115
Void Ray all in is really good vs 1/1/1:

http://drop.sc/29691

http://drop.sc/29690
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9116
I hope Kiwi plays against Puma later in the tournament and hold a 1-1-1 this time
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9117
On August 28 2011 11:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:
lol@all these comments bitching about balance. sickening.

that result was due to Kiwi getting impatient and just a-moving into the siege group. Go figure. He had the middle of the map in stand-off mode, had better economy, etc...

Kiwi won't blame that loss on a build order or TERRAN IMBA!! QQ!! - He'll blame it on a poor engagement.

If you wait and engage at your ramp/nat, you almost instantly lose, especially on XNC, and in all likelihood he was actually behind on econ because of MULEs.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:04:33
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9118
On August 28 2011 11:01 iCanada wrote:
Hmmm, I think Kiwi could have won that engagement if he split all the marines and let his Zealots/Immortals attack.

There you go protoss players, 1base robo/Stargate against 1-1-1, I think it should work. Especially if he were to bring some probes along... not the 15 that PuMa did, but say 5-10.


Obviously not

But I will still love Kiwikaki forever.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9119
On August 28 2011 11:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:
lol@all these comments bitching about balance. sickening.

that result was due to Kiwi getting impatient and just a-moving into the siege group. Go figure. He had the middle of the map in stand-off mode, had better economy, etc...

Kiwi won't blame that loss on a build order or TERRAN IMBA!! QQ!! - He'll blame it on a poor engagement.


haha u think he A moved??? ugh...terrible...don't know how long you have been watching SC2 but that wasn't an A move
HinagikUx
Profile Joined January 2011
United States178 Posts
August 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#9120
On August 28 2011 11:02 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:01 BretZ wrote:
I'm gonna get flamed for raging, but why does Puma cheese his way through Protoss? He's won enough legit games, and why use a strategy that is debatably OP. Ah well, do what you have to win, but in the boring all-in way (( y u so gosu Puma I don't like more Korean Terran T.T


Because when a Code S spot is on the line, he should do anything to get it.

I hate the TvP 1-1-1 right now but you can't fault pros for using it until a counter gets found/a patch is done.



cept MVP, who said anyone who uses 1-1-1 is disgraceful and that he wont use that op build anymore .... what a baller
uGpTaiga/HinagikUx NA Server
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