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On August 24 2011 21:03 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:00 KimJongChill wrote:On August 24 2011 20:59 iamthedave wrote:On August 24 2011 20:55 Morphling_ wrote: Why does zerg cheese suck so much? Only race that can't be a 1 base hero. I do feel that Zerg needs some sort of strong cheese option. All we seem to have is baneling bust. Roach rushes have been weak for ages. The game seems designed to FORCE Zerg to be defensive unless the other player doesn't feel like attacking. EDIT: We need some strong cheese option that isn't 'baneling bust' or 'be ST_July' Way it seems to me is that zerg cheese is always all-in, whereas T and P cheese is still salvageable, more so for T. Can't exactly salvage a failed 4/6gate against a Zerg, unless you manage to kill their hatchery or something
It's situational, but in general, zerg is always left worse-off, given how much zerg relies on hatcheries/drones, and the way zerg exponentially scales with economy. low econ/one base zerg is shit out of luck. toss can usually manage to scrape by with something clever if they play smartly and don't lose everything with their all-in.
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On August 24 2011 21:06 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 24 2011 21:04 TheKefka wrote: July might actually sneak up into the finals again.Only terrans left so bane bust a couple of fools and collect heads. He'll be stopped by Mvp in the semis, IMO. the way july 2-0 MVP and got him sent to the up/down and eventually codeA?
Mvp beat him 3-1 afterwards lol
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On August 24 2011 21:05 stevorino wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:04 supdubdup wrote:Aggressive players...always fun to watch ..... if July was a Terran it would sound different, eh...?
If every single terran didn't already play like that, then yes.
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welp, and now Bel'Shir Beach.
Poor HongUn
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On August 24 2011 21:07 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:06 KiNGxXx wrote:On August 24 2011 21:06 corpsepose wrote: ive never understood how july even wins games. but i like it. Maybe good brain! I would say good balls. I'd say hustle + muscle = success.
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Can Hongun do the 3 pylong 2 cannon wall off (ala 2 bunkers)?
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i really do hate how if july does an all in its ok, but if a terran does it, it should be shunned....Either way that was awesome micro by july.
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On August 24 2011 21:06 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 24 2011 21:04 TheKefka wrote: July might actually sneak up into the finals again.Only terrans left so bane bust a couple of fools and collect heads. He'll be stopped by Mvp in the semis, IMO. Don't know man,I feel MVP is a favorite definitely,but July is a anomaly compared to standard zergs lol.
MVP can out-macro the shit out of July
He just has to double wall for bane busts and he wins.
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On August 24 2011 21:07 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Bel'shir beach In the bottom right is Hongun In the top left is July
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July isn't 6 pooling
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On August 24 2011 21:05 Fubi wrote: Failed 6 pool, STILL WINS!
6pool never fails, he was down 6 workers, but had full map control, honguns exp was hugely denied, the follow up of mass ling holds any 4 gate, so it actually puts p in a realllllllllly bad choice, i think if hongun got decent ff's and stoped the zerg rush the game woulda been a normal game with protoss with a slight lead,
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Always, always love watching July play. High aggression and trickery everywhere.
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Pretty sure wolf got some innuendo going on there.
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On August 24 2011 21:07 kheldorin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:06 TheKefka wrote:On August 24 2011 21:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 24 2011 21:04 TheKefka wrote: July might actually sneak up into the finals again.Only terrans left so bane bust a couple of fools and collect heads. He'll be stopped by Mvp in the semis, IMO. Don't know man,I feel MVP is a favorite definitely,but July is a anomaly compared to standard zergs lol. That's what people said about MC vs July. The fact is July's tricks don't work against the best players.
Didn't July throw MVP back into code A?
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lol, its that July mixed with Lu Bu on a zergling?
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10overlord ? that's gotta be a mistake surely?
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On August 24 2011 21:04 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:03 ondik wrote: i don't understand how the over agressive style works for july again..again..and again people are so used to zergs not doing anything for 10mins Yeah I think its a combination of no pro playing like him, a very good understanding of when to stop drone production and the fact that he realises its better to all-in with a 20% of victory than to macro and have no chance.
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On August 24 2011 21:06 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 24 2011 21:04 TheKefka wrote: July might actually sneak up into the finals again.Only terrans left so bane bust a couple of fools and collect heads. He'll be stopped by Mvp in the semis, IMO. the way july 2-0 MVP and got him sent to the up/down and eventually codeA? No, the way Mvp 3-1ed July in the WC.
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rofl *mumble* "i'd like to teach her" *mumble*
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On August 24 2011 21:07 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:07 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Bel'shir beach In the bottom right is Hongun In the top left is July 0:10July isn't 6 pooling
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Gas then pool for July
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