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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 04 2011 05:05 GMT
#1441
On June 04 2011 14:04 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 13:53 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On June 04 2011 13:46 acker wrote:
On June 04 2011 13:33 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Foreign scene has WAY more money, just total the prize money from all the tourneys. So I dont understand how our progamers can be worse and practice less. The incentives are so big to actually be good.


http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/

The numbers don't lie. Maybe. What may or may not happen in the future has little to no relevance to performance now.

1st of all- numbers lie all the time, I can tell you that as an economist.
2nd- it appears that you are correct. at the moment the total money given out is greater in Korea. I made a mistake of counting tourneys that havent happened yet (so by the end of the year we will be ahead)
3rd- that website only includes tourney wins, I believe if you factor in salary, stream money, sponsorships then foreigners will have more


1: If you have a problem with the numbers, you should find better numbers (better numbers doubtless exist, but I have no clue where to find them). Your argument was derived from the prize money of tournaments, this is the best indicator of prize money of tournaments that we know of.

3: No one knows just how much progamers earn through sponsorships and streams, and they aren't telling. If you can factor that stuff in, there's a lot of people on this website who'd want to know.

While he can't tell you the numbers, you definitely have to factor those in especially since most Korean sc2 players do not make salary.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 05:18:22
June 04 2011 05:12 GMT
#1442
On June 04 2011 14:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
While he can't tell you the numbers, you definitely have to factor those in especially since most Korean sc2 players do not make salary.


Source? I know that TSL at the very least pays out an annual salary for its progamers.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 04 2011 05:14 GMT
#1443
On June 04 2011 14:12 acker wrote:
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On June 04 2011 14:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
While he can't tell you the numbers, you definitely have to factor those in especially since most Korean sc2 players do not make salary.


Source? I know that TSL at the very least pays out an annual salary for its progamers.

TSL was the first to do so and I haven't seen any other team announce they do.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
June 04 2011 05:18 GMT
#1444
Also- 1 more thing. Think about how much money things like Dreamhack, MLG, Assembly spend when they fly out and house players. And the Stipend that some tourneys give out
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
sinjitsu_
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia196 Posts
June 04 2011 05:37 GMT
#1445
Sponsors pay the money.
Flytothesky
Profile Joined April 2004
United States591 Posts
June 04 2011 05:43 GMT
#1446
Props to Tastosis today. Awesome casting as usual.
jHERO
Profile Joined August 2010
China167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 05:56:19
June 04 2011 05:56 GMT
#1447
what game is coming up on tastetosis stream?
jHERO
Profile Joined August 2010
China167 Posts
June 04 2011 06:02 GMT
#1448
On June 04 2011 14:56 jHERO wrote:
what game is coming up on tastetosis stream?


is it just me or is anyone else getting artosis & tasteless talking on blue stream? or is that me? they keep saying that mma vs kiwi is coming up, and now its commercial time?
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 06:19:51
June 04 2011 06:19 GMT
#1449
On June 04 2011 13:44 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 13:40 NHY wrote:
On June 04 2011 13:33 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Foreign scene has WAY more money, just total the prize money from all the tourneys.


This isn't true. Total prize money is greater in Korea so far. Foreign scene might surpass Korea by the end of the year, but just barely.


Sir, you are wrong. Between MLG, NASL, IPL, Be-Line, IEM, ZOTAK, Black Dragon, ASUS Open, Dreamhack, Assembly, Gathering, Craft CUp, EG Masters CUp, GCTL, TSL, StarsWAR and many many more foreign scene has easily 2 times more money (IPL is going to increase the prize pool to 50k from 5k next season, so 3 times more by the end of the year)



Not sure... how much do all those tourney prize pools add up to? In Korea, GSL tour alone nets over $1.3 million in prize per year (and I'm not even counting the Bliz cup which is scheduled at the end of this year and LG Cinema Cup).
WCH
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada239 Posts
June 04 2011 07:29 GMT
#1450
are there vods?
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
June 04 2011 11:27 GMT
#1451
On June 04 2011 16:29 WCH wrote:
are there vods?

Not yet AFAIK. I would guess they'll become available before Day 2 starts.
DBrave
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 13:41:00
June 04 2011 12:21 GMT
#1452
ouch I just finished watching Idra vs MC, o boy those were fantastic games :D
Now I want to watch Idra vs Select but can't find them, I guess they are not uploaded.

What games you recommend for watching, let's say 2 or 3 series besides Idra-MC ??

Thx in advance
gg wp
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12912 Posts
June 04 2011 13:25 GMT
#1453
On June 04 2011 21:21 DBrave wrote:
ouch I just finished watching Idrva vs MC, o boy those were fantastic games :D
Now I want to watch Idra vs Select but can't find them, I guess they are not uploaded.

What games you recommend for watching, let's say 2 or 3 series besides Idra-MC ??

Thx in advance

omg, what's the result? *put spoiler tag please*
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
June 04 2011 13:29 GMT
#1454
Sjow vs MMA was great
Meh.
DBrave
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 13:49:33
June 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#1455
On June 04 2011 22:25 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 21:21 DBrave wrote:
ouch I just finished watching Idrva vs MC, o boy those were fantastic games :D
Now I want to watch Idra vs Select but can't find them, I guess they are not uploaded.

What games you recommend for watching, let's say 2 or 3 series besides Idra-MC ??

Thx in advance

omg, what's the result? *put spoiler tag please*



+ Show Spoiler +
Idra won 2:0 fantastic games, go watch them
gg wp
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12912 Posts
June 04 2011 14:26 GMT
#1456
On June 04 2011 22:42 DBrave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 22:25 ETisME wrote:
On June 04 2011 21:21 DBrave wrote:
ouch I just finished watching Idrva vs MC, o boy those were fantastic games :D
Now I want to watch Idra vs Select but can't find them, I guess they are not uploaded.

What games you recommend for watching, let's say 2 or 3 series besides Idra-MC ??

Thx in advance

omg, what's the result? *put spoiler tag please*



+ Show Spoiler +
Idra won 2:0 fantastic games, go watch them

that's insane! I can't watch now because my finals are coming up but damn, that sounds really awesome!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
June 04 2011 14:54 GMT
#1457
naniwa vs moon was pretty good
fuck lag
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18501 Posts
June 04 2011 14:56 GMT
#1458
Did they just remove the ability to watch yesterday's streams? I was enjoying them!
kern
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 18:10:24
June 04 2011 18:09 GMT
#1459
Something Artosis said These guys crack me up <3
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Cheerful ? lol
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starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 18:22:47
June 04 2011 18:19 GMT
#1460
Major needs to think about which group he wants to get placed in... If i were him I'd be making sure that I didn't finish in 3rd in the open bracket because I think MC and IdrA is going to prove to be a much harder route than groups A, B, or D.

My guesses would be he would want to get group A, D, B, C in that order. If he gets group A I think he has a decent shot of taking his championship bracket down with naniwa posing the biggest threat.

Sucks to say, but I think throwing a game is better than getting put in group C unless he genuinely thinks he can take the entire tournament down. Further he gets the more likely he will be seeded next MLG which if i were him would be my chief concern as the open bracket stages could be really taxing and while I think he 'could' win, I'm not entirely convinced his odds are that great with so many terran snipers left.
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