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Recordings of todays games are playing on http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Red and http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLG_Columbus_Blue - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229478&currentpage=389#7772 for how to skip to games
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
June 03 2011 21:04 GMT
#61
Damn, http://i.imgur.com/VeRUB.gif
Idra vs MC or Kiwikaki vs MMA
Better game or better commentators!?
Oh dear! Choices!
So excited!
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 03 2011 21:04 GMT
#62
Idra vs. MC on the Red stream and Kiwikaki vs. MMA on the Blue stream. This is strait from MLG so which one should i watch?
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
June 03 2011 21:04 GMT
#63
On June 04 2011 06:03 Fionn wrote:Might as well just turn those two channels into Pokemon Silver and Gold.

.....I'd watch that.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
June 03 2011 21:04 GMT
#64
This isn't even fair, I don't know if I should watch red or blue, I guess I can watch both but 1 with sound
slugMUDorange
Profile Joined May 2011
United States67 Posts
June 03 2011 21:04 GMT
#65
omg omg, mc vs idra. omg. and fuck halo
Quake Lover
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 21:05:14
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#66
On June 04 2011 06:03 legaton wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Koreans are going to dominate:


All the people wishing for koreans to lose don't understand the mental superiority of our asians overlords (jk). I think of myself as primarily a broodwar fan. When i see the foreign scene, i say to myself those pro-players are just the same guys that were struggling hard to attain the A rank in Iccup.An A-ranked player in the ICCup server plays at the equivalent level of a B-player on the Brain (korea) servers. At that level, you would be lucky to pass the first round of a Courage tournament.

The Elephant in the Room article already explained this point. But it failed to mention the effect it has on the foreigners mentality. You have to keep in mind they were broodwar players for a far longer time than their SC2 carrier. Koreans amateurs smurfing rolled over them hundreds of time. After fighting countless battles in their countries, the best foreign players died to Koreans using scouts, one rax pressure or a control group of zerglings at the WCG. When they play against a korean player, their confidence is already shaken by all these past experiences. They know it is a new game, but they can't forget how mechanically superior korean players were. On the other hand, koreans players may seem cocky (MC, Moon) but that's one of their strength. They think they are the best. With that confidence, they don't have second thoughts. They just go for the kill. And the competitive environment of the korean scene keeps them as finely attuned killing machines.You could also say the korean players were pretty bad at BW. It is true. Nestea, arguably the best player today, was terrible. oGsMC was also bad. But they are now used to bet their an entire month of competition in just one B.O. With one hundred invitational tournaments per month, how many foreign players may say that?

The gap between foreigners and koreans in both mechanics, creativity and strategy is in fact thin. Koreans have created a lot of the "flavor of the month" strategies and have teched us the proper usage of some units (marines by MKP) or the hidden possibilities of some races (Zerg being agressive). But in fact, there's a lot of interesting ideas being created and explored in the west. As for mechanics, the game is made in a way it is very difficult to differentiate players on this basis alone. But koreans own white people from a mental point of view. Foreigners fold to the pressure of fighting the scary koreans they knew from the times of Broodwar, and playing on the big stage in front of thousands of persons. Koreans are mentally prepared to take the tournaments.

I wish to see some good games and i'm sure koreans will deliver. But i'm also hoping for foreigners to overcome the past and show they can can win in a clutch environment. I think that the european ex-WC playershave a better chance to. They are really good (even if Naniwa didn't exhibit the best control of his nerves at TSL3) and they never felt the korean domination in WC3. Or who knows? Maybe a new generation of SC2 players without a BW background?



Cool story, bro.

Tournament is close enough now for me to just say, let's have the results speak for themselves shall we.

Can't wait for Idra vs MC... zomg
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#67
On June 04 2011 06:03 Fionn wrote:
No one cares about Halo or Black Ops.

Might as well just turn those two channels into Pokemon Silver and Gold.

Pfft, what an unfair comparison.


Gold and Silver were infinitely better.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#68
On June 04 2011 06:04 Asha` wrote:
Awesome start so far, on time and super smooth streaming!

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 06:03 thirnaz wrote:
All is looking good, nice intro, good speach by Sundance. Only bad thing is the 2 people talking atm, would much more like tastosis talking


This is the global intro, at 15mins past the hour each Starcraft stream will have it's own pre-show.

Wheat and Day on Red, Tastosis on Blue.


why are all the cool LRs in Europe?!

ffs, asha move to the US, we can't put all our eggs in one basket
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#69
I like that StarCraft has 2 channels and is the first two channels that are on the tabs.

Quesadillas are ready!
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#70
production looking pro as fuck, stream looking beautiful. if it stays this way its gonna be an awesome weekend :D:D:D
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#71
On June 04 2011 06:04 Domination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 06:03 Fionn wrote:Might as well just turn those two channels into Pokemon Silver and Gold.

.....I'd watch that.

idd, pokemon is epic
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51547 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#72
holy shit.

i wake up at 7am and THE STREAM ACTUALLY WORKS.
Commentator
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#73
Lunchbox, Over2, Pistola?

Halo sure has some nifty names.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
CrispyTender
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#74
On June 04 2011 06:04 Adreme wrote:
Idra vs. MC on the Red stream and Kiwikaki vs. MMA on the Blue stream. This is strait from MLG so which one should i watch?


watch whichever one has tasteless/artosis casting it
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#75
Psyched as hell! Gogo Tastosis!
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#76
blue seems good
Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
June 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#77
SO EXCITED. They made this so epic.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
June 03 2011 21:06 GMT
#78
Remember: When a Korean loses, it's because of Jet Lag.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 03 2011 21:06 GMT
#79
I don't care about Team Instinct or someone leaving Status Quo

GIVE ME TASTOSIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Anda
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany152 Posts
June 03 2011 21:06 GMT
#80
HAHA ♥ all these FPS Nicks (Rambo, Pistole... HAHA!)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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