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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 29 2011 01:43 GMT
#281
I really don't get the infestors, I mean I don't play zerg... but :/
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 02:01:10
May 29 2011 01:43 GMT
#282
Game two - Catz vs MC on Xel'naga Caverns

Game Three - Catz vs MC on Shattered temple
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
May 29 2011 01:43 GMT
#283
Making a nydus in that situation was kind of insulting to MC's intelligence.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#284
People forget that the best part of NASL will be the LAN. It sucks that the Koreans play with lag but so long as they qualify for the LAN it's all good.
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#285
On May 29 2011 10:40 mistgun_EU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:39 Hollis wrote:
And that's why no one uses Nydus.


using it next to a pylon..


He didn't know it was next to a pylon, he only had sight for the plant.

Hence the conclusion: if the protoss has spotter pylons and pays attention he is immune to Nydus. So for Nydus to work offensively like that, you have to be playing a crappy player.

That's why Nydus is bad, although I still see potential for using Nydus like it was used in BW, or even using it like proxy pylons are used by Toss, to eliminate the reinforce distance for your pushes - you even get some creep as a bonus for your hydras to micro on and off, AND if the engagement isn't going well you just zip your whole army up in the worm and the Toss can't touch it.
intense33
Profile Joined January 2011
France93 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#286
On May 29 2011 10:43 julianto wrote:
Making a nydus in that situation was kind of insulting to MC's intelligence.



+1
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#287
On May 29 2011 10:43 julianto wrote:
Making a nydus in that situation was kind of insulting to MC's intelligence.


especially considering that researching drop instead, and dropping all those lings when he only had 4 sentries would of been an easy GG for catz.

Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#288
On May 29 2011 10:41 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:38 Toadvine wrote:
The game aside, this commentary is like reading a LR thread on TL. "Roach/Hydra/Corrupter can't win vs Protoss, Catz lost because he's on even supply, blablabla". Seriously, this game isn't that simple. :/

...They're casters. It's their job to make reads on the situation within the game, and Mr Bitter was very correct in his assessment. It was a very rare case for Catz to come back against MC of all people in that position.

I think the casters' only mistake in game two was in the first battle. They mostly thought CatZ was behind because they thought he just threw away units when he actually sniped 4-5 sentries for 7 or 8 roaches and hydras, which is probably a pretty good trade for a zerg. I think they didnt realize how many sentries MC lost there.
Gezuz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden306 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#289
On May 29 2011 10:43 geno wrote:
gg sir, so manner

after a cannon rush and multiple failed nydus's, that's pretty impressive


that wasnt really a rush just an EXTREMLY greedy build from catz why cant he just try to play a macro game he just won that game in xelnaga
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#290
On May 29 2011 10:31 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
why the fuck does this commenetator keep saying that CaTz was in an unwinnable position??

he has no fucking idea, he is horrible, CaTz was ahead/even most of the game...

Mr Bitter is a great Zerg player. he knows his stuff.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 01:45:40
May 29 2011 01:44 GMT
#291
On May 29 2011 10:43 julianto wrote:
Making a nydus in that situation was kind of insulting to MC's intelligence.


What did you want him to do, lol? Just throw his units in an all-in against MC's wall? Expand blindly in the hopes that MC wouldn't catch him? Tech blindly? Drone hard?

On May 29 2011 10:44 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 10:43 julianto wrote:
Making a nydus in that situation was kind of insulting to MC's intelligence.


especially considering that researching drop instead, and dropping all those lings when he only had 4 sentries would of been an easy GG for catz.



Ah, never mind. >.<
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 01:45:48
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#292
Mr Bitter's sad panda attitude is just pathetic, so unprofessional. you are casting the game yeah you can support one player but casting like a funeral is so uncool
En Taro Adun!
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#293
btw you guys saw recent Nestea's interview? He decided not to compete cross server tournament anymore because lag pisses him off.
You know what I'm talking about
MollocH
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany100 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#294
On May 29 2011 10:43 Olinim wrote:
I really don't get the infestors, I mean I don't play zerg... but :/


Getting early infestors to save some energy on them is a good way to beat a non colossus army as fungal does a huge amount of damage.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#295
On May 29 2011 10:43 Olinim wrote:
I really don't get the infestors, I mean I don't play zerg... but :/


They can work one base. At least ZvZ. Never done it or seen it ZvP. And they're the kind of unit that can get you back into a game if you're behind. CatZ was just so far behind it didn't matter what he did tbh. He was basically fucked as soon as the nydus failed.
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#296
SeleCT for the win now! You cant love that guy enough!!!!

Take down that Machine
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#297
Machine is really good. So sad that he doesnt win much, hes really good TT
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#298
Machine is a champion? Since when?
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#299
He doesn't know who Ric Flair is? WUT?!
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
May 29 2011 01:45 GMT
#300
On May 29 2011 10:43 geno wrote:
gg sir, so manner

after a cannon rush and multiple failed nydus's, that's pretty impressive


Catz is really manner, I'm a big fan of his too. I don't think he can be that upset going 2-1 versus MC and winning a macro game, and he invited the cannon rush by going 15 hatch 17 pool with a probe seeing it all.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
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