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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 02:26:53
May 19 2011 02:26 GMT
#641
On May 19 2011 11:24 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:20 aogmxctm wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:19 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:17 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:14 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:13 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:11 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Why do random people bash pros? How many real, big tournaments have you played in and done well? How many games do you play perfectly? None? Really? Shocking. Shut up and stop critiquing players who are better than you.


I hope you've never talked badly about a football player unless you play in the premier league
or a news reader unless you've been on TV and read the news.

etc. etc.

I haven't. I don't watch football.


Spectators can have their own opinion regardless of how stupid or shitty it is. They can bash all they want and you literally can't do anything about it.

Never said they couldn't. I merely asked why they bashed people better than them when they probably don't know what they're talking about.


except most of the things they're talking about are pretty basic.
floating 700+ minerals
100 chronoboost on both nexi
not making probes

So if someone bashing for this were to fight a pro level player, do you think they would do better? I doubt it. Multiple reasons could play into effect that they currently don't understand. No one but Artosis / Grubby understood. And even if it is basic, by calling someone bad that's condescending. Meaning it's intentionally meaning you're bringing them lower than yourself because you believe you know more than they do. When it's pretty obvious you don't.

We can argue like this all day. I don't think either of us will get anywhere. My opinion and point still stands. If you're going to bash a pro, you damn well better be better than said pro otherwise you look retarded.

Lol - your opinion still stands? No matter what anyone else says? That's definitely going to make me take you seriously ><

It's called relativity; when i say "wow Player X is really bad" i do not mean i can beat him. I do not mean that he is bad relative to my level of skill - he is bad relative to the professional standard we expect. There is nothing wrong with this; just because we are not professionals does not mean we cannot comment on their standard of play. Whether it is good, bad or terrible.

What you are referring to is respect. If we respect an icon like Grubby as much as we should; calling him bad is unwarranted. Quite obviously, people don't respect Grubby as much as they should.
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
May 19 2011 02:26 GMT
#642
On May 19 2011 11:17 Demon Hunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:06 Amui wrote:
HOORAH ARTOSIS LOL. Now Artosis is not the absolute bottom barrel NASL player~~~


Is there still a chance of him getting a placing in NASL? Otherwise what's the point in continuing?


Well if people stop playing once they don't have a chance at staying in, it will mess up the league, since that will mean walkovers to other players that might somehow change the standings in the league.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#643
I love Morrow's ZvZ, actually learn something from it XD
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#644
On May 19 2011 11:26 Jman5 wrote:
I just can't get behind zergling baneling vs zergling baneling. I'm sorry but it just is kind of boring to watch.

one of very few instances of exciting micro battles in this game imo
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#645
On May 19 2011 11:24 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:20 aogmxctm wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:19 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:17 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:14 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:13 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:11 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Why do random people bash pros? How many real, big tournaments have you played in and done well? How many games do you play perfectly? None? Really? Shocking. Shut up and stop critiquing players who are better than you.


I hope you've never talked badly about a football player unless you play in the premier league
or a news reader unless you've been on TV and read the news.

etc. etc.

I haven't. I don't watch football.


Spectators can have their own opinion regardless of how stupid or shitty it is. They can bash all they want and you literally can't do anything about it.

Never said they couldn't. I merely asked why they bashed people better than them when they probably don't know what they're talking about.


except most of the things they're talking about are pretty basic.
floating 700+ minerals
100 chronoboost on both nexi
not making probes

So if someone bashing for this were to fight a pro level player, do you think they would do better? I doubt it. Multiple reasons could play into effect that they currently don't understand. No one but Artosis / Grubby understood. And even if it is basic, by calling someone bad that's condescending. Meaning it's intentionally meaning you're bringing them lower than yourself because you believe you know more than they do. When it's pretty obvious you don't.

We can argue like this all day. I don't think either of us will get anywhere. My opinion and point still stands. If you're going to bash a pro, you damn well better be better than said pro otherwise you look retarded.


I can't disagree any more with this post. This is what fans do, in every sport. Its what sports radio hosts and guys on ESPN do every day and get paid good money to do so. I can't play better than Peyton Manning, but when he threw 5 interceptions against the Chargers a few years back I have every right to say he played like garbage because he did.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#646
On May 19 2011 11:25 Megashira wrote:
Why do you get burrowed roaches ZvZ? It's not like you want to creep closer to the ling/baneling. Maybe hydras but Vibe didn't know Morrow was going for it was he?

well they do regen really fast when burrowed
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 19 2011 02:27 GMT
#647
I thought respect is earned. Grubby should deserve respect.*

*Never liked WC. Never bothered, never watched. Don't care in the slightest what he achieved there.
Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
May 19 2011 02:28 GMT
#648
On May 19 2011 11:25 MaxField wrote:
Vibe did a surprisingly good job at hanging on, he killed a lot of roaches when he lost his third, but Morrow was just so crazy far ahead with economy and army, and really had no chance of losing. GG, and i hope the next game is not a bling fest in the beginning,


If Vibe had sprung his trap before he lost that hatch at the 3rd he would have evened the game, as it was it just got him further behind.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46478 Posts
May 19 2011 02:28 GMT
#649
On May 19 2011 11:27 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:26 Jman5 wrote:
I just can't get behind zergling baneling vs zergling baneling. I'm sorry but it just is kind of boring to watch.

one of very few instances of exciting micro battles in this game imo


I also found it exciting, and I enjoyed watching Morrow come out ahead in every single engagement. I find that incredibly impressive. I don't even play as Zerg.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 19 2011 02:29 GMT
#650
On May 19 2011 11:27 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:25 Megashira wrote:
Why do you get burrowed roaches ZvZ? It's not like you want to creep closer to the ling/baneling. Maybe hydras but Vibe didn't know Morrow was going for it was he?

well they do regen really fast when burrowed


Roach Ambushing can be nice. and yeah. Roach burrow(with the movement/regen upgrade) outheals fungal growth.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 19 2011 02:30 GMT
#651
On May 19 2011 11:27 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 11:24 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:20 aogmxctm wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:19 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:17 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:14 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:13 AltF4Gate wrote:
On May 19 2011 11:11 ShogunSeppuku wrote:
Why do random people bash pros? How many real, big tournaments have you played in and done well? How many games do you play perfectly? None? Really? Shocking. Shut up and stop critiquing players who are better than you.


I hope you've never talked badly about a football player unless you play in the premier league
or a news reader unless you've been on TV and read the news.

etc. etc.

I haven't. I don't watch football.


Spectators can have their own opinion regardless of how stupid or shitty it is. They can bash all they want and you literally can't do anything about it.

Never said they couldn't. I merely asked why they bashed people better than them when they probably don't know what they're talking about.


except most of the things they're talking about are pretty basic.
floating 700+ minerals
100 chronoboost on both nexi
not making probes

So if someone bashing for this were to fight a pro level player, do you think they would do better? I doubt it. Multiple reasons could play into effect that they currently don't understand. No one but Artosis / Grubby understood. And even if it is basic, by calling someone bad that's condescending. Meaning it's intentionally meaning you're bringing them lower than yourself because you believe you know more than they do. When it's pretty obvious you don't.

We can argue like this all day. I don't think either of us will get anywhere. My opinion and point still stands. If you're going to bash a pro, you damn well better be better than said pro otherwise you look retarded.


I can't disagree any more with this post. This is what fans do, in every sport. Its what sports radio hosts and guys on ESPN do every day and get paid good money to do so. I can't play better than Peyton Manning, but when he threw 5 interceptions against the Chargers a few years back I have every right to say he played like garbage because he did.

QFT

The argument that you have to be as good as X to criticize that player is only logical if it is your buddy next door. We are talking about pro sports, where a mass of fans follow players. I am not nearly as good as Gattuso or Lampard, but I think both are trash right now.

Everything is relative of course. Relative to myself, they are good. Just like Grubby, but since when I am a standard to compare to pro's?
Megashira
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden98 Posts
May 19 2011 02:31 GMT
#652
Morrow not scouting south first, i guess he favors seeing early zerglings before an early expansion hatchery.
Playing with Fire - www.sc2pwf.se - www.twitter.com/teampwf
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
May 19 2011 02:31 GMT
#653
On May 19 2011 11:27 Xxavi wrote:
I thought respect is earned. Grubby should deserve respect.*

*Never liked WC. Never bothered, never watched. Don't care in the slightest what he achieved there.


This is one of the reasons eSports will unfortunately struggle for a long time to get the status of a "normal Entertainment" in the global society... You should at least have some respect for someone who shares the same passion like you do. Why do some people of different games do not have respect for each other... I dont get it.
Fav P Stork / Fav T Fantasy / Fav Z Hoejja
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#654
2 drones gg
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#655
WHY DIDNT YOU BLOCK THE RAMP VIBE >_________<
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#656
Banelings banelings banelings OHHHH
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#657
Lol banelings get into ViBe mineral line and he has 2 drones left - ViBe GGs!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#658
sixjax struggling
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#659
2 drones.....problem??
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
May 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#660
huge baneling explosions on the mineral line. gg
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
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