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On May 09 2011 13:41 QuanChi wrote: Damn, incontrol is such a good commentator. He is getting better and better. Nice job man, keep it up Not only incontrol, Gretorp is also getting pretty good.
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On May 09 2011 13:39 MUFFINS1 wrote: Tyler hasn't been doing that bad I mean he beat Select recently
Yeah I agree. Lets be fair with Tyler, he is still a pretty good SC2 player. I mean, in TSL he lost to a finalist who eliminated MC, Boxer is Boxer.
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well great games everyone.. nice play day!!
XD
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On May 09 2011 13:35 bluestuff wrote: no offensive but tyler is probably the most overrated toss on tl.net. Most games i see him play, I don't see anything special. Definetly under playing to his (so called) potential. hes just in a huge slump atm, he has played so well in the past
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On May 09 2011 13:39 TooN wrote: tyler shouldnt be put on a pedestal from his achievements in BW. He is not a top tier pro in sc2 yet. I am sorry, it is not a call out, it is just based on the results. I want him to do better, but he is jsut not there right now. I don't know if he is putting up the time and practice, but I don't see much improvement. Yes, I think people are expecting too much from him at the moment. He's definitely one of the weaker players in this group.
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inc is so damn good at keeping a constant stream of dialogue going
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really enjoying the commentary, they have improved so much
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On May 09 2011 13:41 Vorenius wrote: Really weird what is happening with Tyler atm...
He just looked off that entire game, like it wasn't him playing.
He forgot a gate way (he needed a 4th a lot earlier) then had to add a 5th that you usually won't need on two base. I'm pretty sure the reason he got charge was he was floating resources as well. He just had like 500+ minerals the entire game. On top of that his decision making is questionable at best. He seems to always engage when it's clear he's gonna lose and in this particular series the 5gate bust attempt in the first game was never gonna do anything. :s
Really hope he can find his mojo again
Ehhh isn't the whole double forge build done on 3 gates? But yeah he made pretty bad engagements
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Lol, I have no idea why they always play that scene with Teenagers From Outer Space in the background, but it always cracks me up.
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It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride
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Edit: ^ I see what you did there  On May 09 2011 13:43 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:41 Vorenius wrote: Really weird what is happening with Tyler atm...
He just looked off that entire game, like it wasn't him playing.
He forgot a gate way (he needed a 4th a lot earlier) then had to add a 5th that you usually won't need on two base. I'm pretty sure the reason he got charge was he was floating resources as well. He just had like 500+ minerals the entire game. On top of that his decision making is questionable at best. He seems to always engage when it's clear he's gonna lose and in this particular series the 5gate bust attempt in the first game was never gonna do anything. :s
Really hope he can find his mojo again Ehhh isn't the whole double forge build done on 3 gates? But yeah he made pretty bad engagements I'm pretty sure you should get the 4th relatively fast after expanding. And the fact that Tyler had 700+ minerals when he put down GWs number 4 and 5 would support that. Either way his macro was pretty bad this game
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Tyler is rather lucky that Drewbie and Painuser are in his group, otherwise, he might not even have a chance a NASL 2.
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On May 09 2011 13:40 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:39 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 09 2011 09:44 DoomsVille wrote:On May 09 2011 09:42 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 09 2011 09:39 Bibbit wrote: I smell a lot of 2-0's tonight.
Sen 2-0 Zenio 2-0 Idra 2-0 Socke 2-0 Tyler 2-1 I agree, though yesterday's matches surprised me with the amount of fight in them all. Give me Sen 2-1 Zenio and Idra 2-0 Socke 2-1 Nada 2-0 (though I want more than anything for Tyler to reassert his power and take it 2-0) I'm pretty confident Nada won't be winning any matches tonight.  Going 4-1, and making somebody look foolish..I'd say I had a decent liquibet night..though I wish Tyler would've worked some magic..can't wait for him to get his stuff sorted out.. Yea I'm the one that looks stupid. Nada definately won that last game. Outplayed tyler so badly.
I'm not sure if you are joking or not, but it was Boxer that played against Tyler today, not Nada.
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On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote: It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride
Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...
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On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote: It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...
Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM.
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On May 09 2011 13:46 slyboogie wrote: Tyler is rather lucky that Drewbie and Painuser are in his group, otherwise, he might not even have a chance a NASL 2.
Well, its still the group of death. Not lucky to be in there.
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On May 09 2011 13:48 sAfuRos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote: It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on... Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM. To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower
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On May 09 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:48 sAfuRos wrote:On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote: It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on... Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM. To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower
Not saying Artosis is awesome, but to be fair he is playing these NASL games at like 5 am and with latency which comes from playing from Korea.
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On May 09 2011 13:46 Vorenius wrote:Edit: ^ I see what you did there  Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:43 windsupernova wrote:On May 09 2011 13:41 Vorenius wrote: Really weird what is happening with Tyler atm...
He just looked off that entire game, like it wasn't him playing.
He forgot a gate way (he needed a 4th a lot earlier) then had to add a 5th that you usually won't need on two base. I'm pretty sure the reason he got charge was he was floating resources as well. He just had like 500+ minerals the entire game. On top of that his decision making is questionable at best. He seems to always engage when it's clear he's gonna lose and in this particular series the 5gate bust attempt in the first game was never gonna do anything. :s
Really hope he can find his mojo again Ehhh isn't the whole double forge build done on 3 gates? But yeah he made pretty bad engagements I'm pretty sure you should get the 4th relatively fast after expanding. And the fact that Tyler had 700+ minerals when he put down GWs number 4 and 5 would support that. Either way his macro was pretty bad this game
Not exactly, I've always seen him put down 2 at once when he can afford. Theres no specific timing you do it when money lets up. I think you may be thinking about PvZ where the 4th goes up relatively quickly if you aren't going into tech mode. But when you are teching heavily like tyler the extra gates aren't too useful immediately you just want them for a push. Also note he did go robotics before the 2 extra gates. He really wasn't in a bad position before the engagement. The EMPs just caught him and his sentries. No FFs means the entire terran bio force bearing down on you, theres nothing anyone could've done.
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On May 09 2011 13:54 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:On May 09 2011 13:48 sAfuRos wrote:On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote: It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on... Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM. To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower Not saying Artosis is awesome, but to be fair he is playing these NASL games at like 5 am and with latency which comes from playing from Korea.
Eh but even his bnet ladder results put him at mid-masters
in any event, we should stop derailing this thread
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