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DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
May 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#1461
On May 09 2011 13:41 QuanChi wrote:
Damn, incontrol is such a good commentator. He is getting better and better. Nice job man, keep it up

Not only incontrol, Gretorp is also getting pretty good.
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#1462
On May 09 2011 13:39 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Tyler hasn't been doing that bad I mean he beat Select recently


Yeah I agree. Lets be fair with Tyler, he is still a pretty good SC2 player. I mean, in TSL he lost to a finalist who eliminated MC, Boxer is Boxer.

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#1463
well great games everyone.. nice play day!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#1464
On May 09 2011 13:35 bluestuff wrote:
no offensive but tyler is probably the most overrated toss on tl.net. Most games i see him play, I don't see anything special. Definetly under playing to his (so called) potential.

hes just in a huge slump atm, he has played so well in the past
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
May 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#1465
On May 09 2011 13:39 TooN wrote:
tyler shouldnt be put on a pedestal from his achievements in BW. He is not a top tier pro in sc2 yet. I am sorry, it is not a call out, it is just based on the results. I want him to do better, but he is jsut not there right now. I don't know if he is putting up the time and practice, but I don't see much improvement.

Yes, I think people are expecting too much from him at the moment. He's definitely one of the weaker players in this group.
cooked
Profile Joined December 2010
China1238 Posts
May 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#1466
inc is so damn good at keeping a constant stream of dialogue going
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#1467
really enjoying the commentary, they have improved so much
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#1468
On May 09 2011 13:41 Vorenius wrote:
Really weird what is happening with Tyler atm...

He just looked off that entire game, like it wasn't him playing.

He forgot a gate way (he needed a 4th a lot earlier) then had to add a 5th that you usually won't need on two base. I'm pretty sure the reason he got charge was he was floating resources as well. He just had like 500+ minerals the entire game. On top of that his decision making is questionable at best. He seems to always engage when it's clear he's gonna lose and in this particular series the 5gate bust attempt in the first game was never gonna do anything. :s

Really hope he can find his mojo again


Ehhh isn't the whole double forge build done on 3 gates? But yeah he made pretty bad engagements
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada991 Posts
May 09 2011 04:44 GMT
#1469
Lol, I have no idea why they always play that scene with Teenagers From Outer Space in the background, but it always cracks me up.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." -- Carl Sagan
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
May 09 2011 04:45 GMT
#1470
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 04:47:01
May 09 2011 04:46 GMT
#1471
Edit: ^ I see what you did there
On May 09 2011 13:43 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:41 Vorenius wrote:
Really weird what is happening with Tyler atm...

He just looked off that entire game, like it wasn't him playing.

He forgot a gate way (he needed a 4th a lot earlier) then had to add a 5th that you usually won't need on two base. I'm pretty sure the reason he got charge was he was floating resources as well. He just had like 500+ minerals the entire game. On top of that his decision making is questionable at best. He seems to always engage when it's clear he's gonna lose and in this particular series the 5gate bust attempt in the first game was never gonna do anything. :s

Really hope he can find his mojo again


Ehhh isn't the whole double forge build done on 3 gates? But yeah he made pretty bad engagements

I'm pretty sure you should get the 4th relatively fast after expanding. And the fact that Tyler had 700+ minerals when he put down GWs number 4 and 5 would support that. Either way his macro was pretty bad this game

slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 09 2011 04:46 GMT
#1472
Tyler is rather lucky that Drewbie and Painuser are in his group, otherwise, he might not even have a chance a NASL 2.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
entocheets
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia367 Posts
May 09 2011 04:47 GMT
#1473
On May 09 2011 13:40 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:39 AimForTheBushes wrote:
On May 09 2011 09:44 DoomsVille wrote:
On May 09 2011 09:42 AimForTheBushes wrote:
On May 09 2011 09:39 Bibbit wrote:
I smell a lot of 2-0's tonight.

Sen 2-0
Zenio 2-0
Idra 2-0
Socke 2-0
Tyler 2-1


I agree, though yesterday's matches surprised me with the amount of fight in them all.
Give me
Sen 2-1
Zenio and Idra 2-0
Socke 2-1
Nada 2-0 (though I want more than anything for Tyler to reassert his power and take it 2-0)

I'm pretty confident Nada won't be winning any matches tonight.


Going 4-1, and making somebody look foolish..I'd say I had a decent liquibet night..though I wish Tyler would've worked some magic..can't wait for him to get his stuff sorted out..

Yea I'm the one that looks stupid. Nada definately won that last game. Outplayed tyler so badly.


I'm not sure if you are joking or not, but it was Boxer that played against Tyler today, not Nada.
##creepers 4 lyf
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
May 09 2011 04:47 GMT
#1474
On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote:
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride


Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
May 09 2011 04:48 GMT
#1475
On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote:
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride


Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...


Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem
I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM.
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
May 09 2011 04:50 GMT
#1476
On May 09 2011 13:46 slyboogie wrote:
Tyler is rather lucky that Drewbie and Painuser are in his group, otherwise, he might not even have a chance a NASL 2.


Well, its still the group of death. Not lucky to be in there.
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
May 09 2011 04:51 GMT
#1477
On May 09 2011 13:48 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote:
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride


Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...


Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem
I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM.

To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower
hi
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
May 09 2011 04:54 GMT
#1478
On May 09 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:48 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote:
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride


Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...


Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem
I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM.

To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower


Not saying Artosis is awesome, but to be fair he is playing these NASL games at like 5 am and with latency which comes from playing from Korea.
j0k3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States577 Posts
May 09 2011 04:55 GMT
#1479
On May 09 2011 13:46 Vorenius wrote:
Edit: ^ I see what you did there
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:43 windsupernova wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:41 Vorenius wrote:
Really weird what is happening with Tyler atm...

He just looked off that entire game, like it wasn't him playing.

He forgot a gate way (he needed a 4th a lot earlier) then had to add a 5th that you usually won't need on two base. I'm pretty sure the reason he got charge was he was floating resources as well. He just had like 500+ minerals the entire game. On top of that his decision making is questionable at best. He seems to always engage when it's clear he's gonna lose and in this particular series the 5gate bust attempt in the first game was never gonna do anything. :s

Really hope he can find his mojo again


Ehhh isn't the whole double forge build done on 3 gates? But yeah he made pretty bad engagements

I'm pretty sure you should get the 4th relatively fast after expanding. And the fact that Tyler had 700+ minerals when he put down GWs number 4 and 5 would support that. Either way his macro was pretty bad this game



Not exactly, I've always seen him put down 2 at once when he can afford. Theres no specific timing you do it when money lets up. I think you may be thinking about PvZ where the 4th goes up relatively quickly if you aren't going into tech mode. But when you are teching heavily like tyler the extra gates aren't too useful immediately you just want them for a push. Also note he did go robotics before the 2 extra gates. He really wasn't in a bad position before the engagement. The EMPs just caught him and his sentries. No FFs means the entire terran bio force bearing down on you, theres nothing anyone could've done.
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
May 09 2011 04:55 GMT
#1480
On May 09 2011 13:54 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:51 MUFFINS1 wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:48 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:47 Ezze wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:45 sAfuRos wrote:
It reminds a bit of Artosis...A caliber Brood War players who for some reason are not at the top of sc2, which is mind boggling to me. Ah well...they have the capability, hopefully Tyler gets into his Stride


Dude Tyler isn't the greatest right now, but he's nowhere near as bad as Artosis come on...


Never said they were the same, said they had a similar problem
I would agree...Artosis is hardly a top Masters player, let alone GM.

To be honest his games vs fenix i would have to argue that he barely masters caliber or lower


Not saying Artosis is awesome, but to be fair he is playing these NASL games at like 5 am and with latency which comes from playing from Korea.


Eh but even his bnet ladder results put him at mid-masters

in any event, we should stop derailing this thread
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
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