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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:26 beblunt wrote: I figure a "pro" player like haypro can scout that from a mile away. Very poor play. really shows how poor ur play is. because again. all zergs have trouble with that attack. pro or otherwise.. | ||
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mikyaJ
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:26 beblunt wrote: I figure a "pro" player like haypro can scout that from a mile away. Very poor play. Actually IdrA had a really though time facing this build vs Socke, I think in MLG or NASL don't remember, just some event I remember that IdrA had a total pain in the ass. | ||
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Maskedsatyr
Singapore1245 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:27 NExt wrote: really shows how poor ur play is. because again. all zergs have trouble with that attack. pro or otherwise.. He should have been able to read Squirtle much better than that, expanding without a forge on Crossfire is suicide, Squirtle doesn't 3gate expand without a forge, he saw more units than a regular 3gate expand should have at the time. It is tough, no doubt, but it wasn't as if Haypro was in the dark | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:20 Whitewing wrote: I guess you didn't see those tournaments he won during Brood War then. Dreamhack I believe? Broodwar is a different game. Haypro's results for SC2 have undoubtedly been the weakest of all the TL members. Maybe he's a good player, maybe not, but he sure never delivers results when it counts. | ||
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zyglrox
United States1168 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:27 NExt wrote: really shows how poor ur play is. because again. all zergs have trouble with that attack. pro or otherwise.. that build is evil. as a protoss i can see why it is difficult for zergs to deal with. if you don't get an ovie in the base, you can either respond to a 3 gate expand and drone or prepare for a 4 gate. if you guess wrong you are behind/dead. it's just a dirty build. (successful nonetheless) | ||
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
I recently read an MC interview where he said Haypro hasn't been practicing much.... so that, coupled with his results really lead me to wish that some other up and comming pro would get the opportunities that Haypro is getting. Because based on his results, he wouldn't be in NASL or any of the tournements he's in.... he get access because he is part of TL. | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Everyone should wear the pink GSL shirts. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:26 beblunt wrote: I figure a "pro" player like haypro can scout that from a mile away. Very poor play. the POINT of it is to make it harder to scout, if you were a zerg player who saw 2gates 2 sentries and A stalker then a nexus at 98/9% completion then what the hell would your read be? as a protoss player, i would assume 3gate expand at that point in the zergs shoes had i not seen the 4th gate >.< (though i personally prefer not cancelling the nexus lol (it weakens it slightly, so i just get a few more sentries aka ff) | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:29 Dommk wrote: He should have been able to read Squirtle much better than that, expanding without a forge on Crossfire is suicide, Squirtle doesn't 3gate expand without a forge, he saw more units than a regular 3gate expand should have at the time. It is tough, no doubt, but it wasn't as if Haypro was in the dark 3 gate expand generally puts the forge down after the nexus completes, so that wasn't scoutable. Zergs just need to have an overlord to sacrifice after the nexus finishes to see if it's still there. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Anyway this build is very hard to stop, as soon as we saw the drones in production when squirtle left his base this was over. 3 queens but no transfuse on the spine too. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:24 Chicane wrote: I agree. The commentators and everyone working on the production should go to work 12 hours earlier just for them, even though they agreed to play at those times when they signed up since it is a NA league. Can you tell if I'm being sarcastic or not? As for the match itself... I can't say I'm surprised. From what I understand all games are played the same day. Why is it so unreasonable for a match of two players playing during later times to be casted first? I won't pretend to know the entire schedule of NASL production but I would at least expect a little bit of accommodation. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:31 MrCon wrote: I'm not even sure haypro scouted the nexus, did he ? Anyway this build is very hard to stop, as soon as we saw the drones in production when squirtle left his base this was over. 3 queens but no transfuse on the spine too. He did, he had a zergling run in to see it, and it died about 3 seconds before the nexus was canceled (just before it would have finished). He most likely assumed that it was going to finish, especially since he saw a ton of sentries. It looked exactly like a 3 gate expand, he just got tricked. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:30 Whitewing wrote: 3 gate expand generally puts the forge down after the nexus completes, so that wasn't scoutable. Zergs just need to have an overlord to sacrifice after the nexus finishes to see if it's still there. Maybe it is just me, but I put the forge down before the Nexus is down, when your warping in Sentries you get a mineral build up, unless your boosting 4 Gateways like Squirtle was, it isn't really possible to spend that. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Haypro... I don't know. Maybe some Liquid member can explain but it seems his play has just been getting worse and worse. | ||
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zyglrox
United States1168 Posts
On April 30 2011 13:31 setzer wrote: From what I understand all games are played the same day. Why is it so unreasonable for a match of two players playing during later times to be broadcasted first? I won't pretend to know the entire schedule of NASL production but I would at least expect a little bit of accommodation. that's a more reasonable response, and a pretty good idea. i would assume this would be possible, but would make it difficult if they edited the match to later in the cast because of commentary. i guess for it to run as smoothly as possible with this strategy would be to have similar time zone matchups just play first. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
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