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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:33 Kamais_Ookin wrote: 5:30 Proxy stargate for anypro! I think Jinro could hold considering his 4 rax marines and a bunker to boot.4:00 Jinro with FE and adding on another rax and a bunker. Warp being researched by anypro. | ||
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rushian
United Kingdom568 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 papaz wrote: Are you serious? The guy won 2 GSLs. How many does he have to win to be considered "showing skill": If the "abusive builds" doesn't take skill, which you are almost saying, why doesn't other progamers do them and just win the GSL? They don't like money? It's better to lose and have "good" builds rather then have "abusive builds", rank 1 in the world and win GSL:s and $$? yeah it's hilarious. like every other protoss is either too noble to use good builds or too stupid to study MC's games. Both are utter nonsense these guys are playing for huge money they're going to do whatever they can to win. MC is simply really good and it's a pity people can't see this | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46212 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 papaz wrote: Are you serious? The guy won 2 GSLs. How many does he have to win to be considered "showing skill": If the "abusive builds" doesn't take skill, which you are almost saying, why doesn't other progamers do them and just win the GSL? They don't like money? It's better to lose and have "good" builds rather then have "abusive builds", rank 1 in the world and win GSL:s and $$? I agree with you. If MC was only winning because of the builds he used, then everyone would be as good as MC by simply copying him. Obviously, his skill (strategy, execution, etc.) far surpasses most (all?) other pro-gamers at the moment. I think they're a bit jealous... | ||
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:34 Kamais_Ookin wrote: 6:30 Jinro knows what's going on and is making 2 more bunkers. 2 Zealots being warped in the high ground SCV HOLD MICRO zealots coukdn't reach marines!5:30 Proxy stargate for anypro! I think Jinro could hold considering his 4 rax marines and a bunker to boot. | ||
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hmmm...
632 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:25 Highways wrote: I actually agree with what SOTG (Tyler, Incontrol) etc... MC doesn't show that much skill, all he does is abusive builds. When you watch Bisu from BW, you are in awe at the game sense and multitasking. Watching MC you don't feel you are watching anything special, except a abusive Protoss. HAH! really. then why don't tyler and incontrol copy mc's build and just own other people. i'm pretty sure their tournament earnings are hardly decent, maybe they could use some money by just doing abusive builds eh??? I'm sure they wish they had even 1/4 of MC's tournaments earnings..... MC is skilled. If it were so easy, every other protoss would be playing like MC. But I do agree watching Bisu play is more awe-striking. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
And, uh, masses units and attacks (and wins), as opposed to macro games, maybe you should also consider that its on MC's opponents to actually prove they can get to a macro game first so that he can play a macro game. For all you know, he's gearing for a macro game but they just die before that >_> Its nice to have an opinion but it seems as if you're downplaying how good MC is.  | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46212 Posts
 Either way, nice playing from him! | ||
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AlecPyron
United States131 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 thopol wrote: Wow. I never heard about that. Thanks for posting despite it being offtopic. If you hadn't I would never have known. Why do the Koreans care so much about that? They seem pretty aggressive about something that has virtually no importance. Dude, no importance? It's a rich fishing ground the very least. Other countries got into war for just that. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
Void ray attack the expansion orbital. anypro warps in some zealots, but Jinro with an awesome SCV block fends it off. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51101 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:34 Sfydjklm wrote: lol for a second i had a BW flashback and was like whoa wtf why is Jinro going rax TvP lololol,on that note. | ||
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pretensile
135 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 thopol wrote: Wow. I never heard about that. Thanks for posting despite it being offtopic. If you hadn't I would never have known. Why do the Koreans care so much about that? They seem pretty aggressive about something that has virtually no importance. EDIT: Jinro Hwaiting!! It's because MarineKingPrime held up a sign saying "Dokdo is Korean territory" after his match against Sen. I'm guessing it's been a hot-button topic lately in South Korea, though it's still a little bit odd that he brings it up in an esports setting. | ||
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ct2299
380 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 Huckleuro wrote: I am the biggest anti-balance talking bloke here. If MC played Zerg, could you see him totally and utterly crushing the top protoss's without even sweating? No drops or 2 pronged attacks, just macro and timing? Because i cant. However. MC forcefields are bossmode. I definitely agree that MC wouldn't be able to crush the top protoss' without sweating, but at the same time I think no other protoss could do what he does to the level MC does it as well. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:35 Kamais_Ookin wrote: 8:00 Stim is half-way done, voids trying to charge on rocks, Jinro has so many bunkers this should be ezy. anypro doesn't now what to do.6:30 Jinro knows what's going on and is making 2 more bunkers. 2 Zealots being warped in the high ground SCV HOLD MICRO zealots coukdn't reach marines! | ||
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RedMooN09
United States24 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 thopol wrote: Wow. I never heard about that. Thanks for posting despite it being offtopic. If you hadn't I would never have known. Why do the Koreans care so much about that? They seem pretty aggressive about something that has virtually no importance. EDIT: Jinro Hwaiting!! When someone is trying to take what is yours, regardless of its importance (though Dokdo IS important b/c of territorial issues which grants access to natural resources), wouldn't you try to stop them? So you'd let someone readily steal your $5 pen since it's not that expensive? OP: I hope Jinro wins! Go Go Gorilla Terran Go Go! | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
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WingEn
84 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 Chise wrote: Well, I obviously do know that MC knows more than 2 builds, but looking at his games, they are all similar. Most games differ only slithtly, he either expands, doesn't expand, gets a robo, or something like that. But overall, he masses units and attacks (and wins with that attack) every game. MC is a pretty good player, he's just not showing entertaining games, in my opinion. The last entertaining game from MC I remember was in GSL 3 vs Rain. He actually played a macro game back then. So... In his games, he used.... Zealots, Stalkers, Sentries, DTs, Observers, Immortals, Pheonix, Voidray.... So, other Protoss players like to make deathballs and roll around and people call it imba MC love to win without deathballs and people still call it imba Conclusion? MC is imba. | ||
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recklessfire
United States373 Posts
On March 31 2011 20:31 Chise wrote: Well, I obviously do know that MC knows more than 2 builds, but looking at his games, they are all similar. Most games differ only slithtly, he either expands, doesn't expand, gets a robo, or something like that. But overall, he masses units and attacks (and wins with that attack) every game. MC is a pretty good player, he's just not showing entertaining games, in my opinion. The last entertaining game from MC I remember was in GSL 3 vs Rain. He actually played a macro game back then. PvT is so much more versatile than PvZ. The PvZ matchup seems so linear and thats due to the conflicting problems with the gameplay itself, i.e warpgate. Im not saying its imbalanced but its a sensitive issue that cant be easily solved with simple nerfs or buffs to units. Protoss's only effective response to zerg mass units is colossus, so we either turtle to get to them or hit them before there are too many zerg units. Not much else we can do because gateway units are so ineffective against zerg units in straight up battles | ||
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DayJP
Brazil477 Posts
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