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debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
November 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#5241
A more defensive banshee can be pretty good, gives you a lot of map control before mutas and gives you some harrassing options.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#5242
Grack has to improve his ZvZ sometime, given all the strong Zergs in this tournament.

It seems like ZvT has actually become of the easier match-ups for Zerg, this time around.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
November 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#5243
banelings are one of the most entertaining additions to SC2. caught myself clapping after machine blew up that line of scvs on blistering sands. they add so much tension to the game.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5244
On November 07 2010 07:43 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:36 blizzind wrote:
yeah it shouldn't be called the losers bracket. way too harsh. upper and lower bracket imo.


Pitchers bracket and catchers bracket imo.



Smokers bracket and drinkers bracket imo
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5245
For anyone interested, taken from yesterday early Brackets at MLG Dallas, TheLittleOne facing TorcH 1st game

LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (Z) VS TorcH (T) G1 Part 1 [MLG Dallas]



LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (Z) VS TorcH (T) G1 Part 2 [MLG Dallas]

EU / US / KR English Shoutcasted Matches 720p HD -> http://www.youtube.com/user/xHydrax
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5246
On November 07 2010 07:45 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:43 Ryzu wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:42 positron. wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:38 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:35 Sleight wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:28 Dont Panic wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:24 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:23 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:19 Graphex wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:19 RaneStari wrote:
[quote]

Marauders should be 3 food and Marines 2 food.




Mutalisk acceleration should be nerfed


Stim should cost more health. Like 50% of the units health.

Seriously, I can do this all day.


Marines should be researched in the Fusion Core.

Depot should require a barracks


Funniest. Thing. Ever.

I don't want to say TvZ is imbalanced, but it is now very constrained on both sides and all games turn into the same match. I haven't seen any diversity in the match. People claim this is because people are boring, but I am pretty sure that most of the "diverse" openings are just weaker than standard play on both sides.


I don't really think it's that constrained.

I'm not seeing enough blue flame hellion harass or early (4-5) marine harass or even Viking overlord sniping going on from terrans. Ever Terran just wants to get banshees and then go straight for bio ball.

And because terrans do the same opening, Zerg does the same counter (Muta/Ling/Bling)

Terran innovation would open up the matchup.


You can harass him all day long but eventually you will have to face his army. What do you face it with? You need marines to counter mutas and bling rape them really hard. Thors don't work that well against mutas with magic box. How hard is the micro really? A-move lings, hit the s key for mutas and right click the bling to chase marines. People being smartass saying well don't go bio are idiots. Don't have marines then mutas will kill you. Why is it so hard to see?


Go complain to Blizzard about banelings, then, and watch as they laugh at you.


Yea I am laughing at you now.


Hope you enjoy it as the banelings roll over you, too.
Waking
Profile Joined October 2010
United States46 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5247
anyone know why the fuck kulas ravine is allowed in MLG?
flamekin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States72 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5248
some people call it the consolation bracket
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5249
On November 07 2010 07:41 kojinshugi wrote:
Banshees are so bad against Zerg because they can scout it pretty easily compared to toss, unless you proxy but that's a huge risk.

I really think it comes down to people learning the proper timings to contain zerg's expanding with relatively small forces applying pressure. Just trading armies is going to be bad news, Zerg has lots of expendable units by design whereas you don't.

It's the most interesting matchup in SC2 right now for sure.

Dunno, containing slings with few units isn't the easiest, even hellions aren't really that great against them. I'm not really sure what direction the terrans should be looking at. Passive and zerg outmacros you, agressive and you have to micro your rines so well(to the point I think only pros can really do it effectively)... Been considering FEs lately, forcing the zerg to take a 3rd which is more easily punishable than his nat... But yeah... It'll be interesting to see how the MU develops no doubt.
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
November 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#5250
Trick is, attacking into banelings is suicide. You've got to get them to charge into you. It's a battle of wits between both players, I love it.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
trevf
Profile Joined May 2010
United States237 Posts
November 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#5251
On November 07 2010 07:38 RaneStari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:35 Sleight wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:28 Dont Panic wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:24 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:23 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:19 Graphex wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:19 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:13 zomgad wrote:
beneling should be a lair unit


Marauders should be 3 food and Marines 2 food.




Mutalisk acceleration should be nerfed


Stim should cost more health. Like 50% of the units health.

Seriously, I can do this all day.


Marines should be researched in the Fusion Core.

Depot should require a barracks


Funniest. Thing. Ever.

I don't want to say TvZ is imbalanced, but it is now very constrained on both sides and all games turn into the same match. I haven't seen any diversity in the match. People claim this is because people are boring, but I am pretty sure that most of the "diverse" openings are just weaker than standard play on both sides.


I don't really think it's that constrained.

I'm not seeing enough blue flame hellion harass or early (4-5) marine harass or even Viking overlord sniping going on from terrans. Ever Terran just wants to get banshees and then go straight for bio ball.

And because terrans do the same opening, Zerg does the same counter (Muta/Ling/Bling)

Terran innovation would open up the matchup.


Blue flame hellions delay your starport tech too long to really be a solid opening.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#5252
On November 07 2010 07:42 positron. wrote:
You can harass him all day long but eventually you will have to face his army


You can't "harass" zerg unless they're in some super fragile state. Killing drones in anything but the early game seems like a waste of time. Sniping queens, sniping spires, denying expansions, killing ovies should give better results. Z past the early game can replenish 20ish drones in one production cycle. Hit them where it hurts, which is production capacity.
whatsgrackalackin420
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#5253
On November 07 2010 07:46 flamekin wrote:
some people call it the consolation bracket


Nah. Remember NexGenius came back from the LB to 4-0 Loner at Blizzcon, who knocked him down there in the first place.

The people in LB still have a definite chance.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
November 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#5254
On November 07 2010 07:39 AlBundy wrote:
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On November 07 2010 07:37 heishe wrote:
just came back home. nazgul 2-1 idra? how did that happen?


Nazgul went for a 4-gate blink stalkers build all three games, but Idra only managed to stop it in game 2.


Idra's attempt to go for a big bust-in on game 3 (on Kulas Ravine) seemed like a bit of a blunder, and I feel like he had time to go for Hydras again like in Game 2.

I wonder if idra will start focusing on other match-ups now that he seems to have 'solved' ZvT.
Callanish
Profile Joined October 2010
249 Posts
November 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#5255
On November 07 2010 07:46 flamekin wrote:
some people call it the consolation bracket


Only blizz does that
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
November 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#5256
On November 07 2010 07:39 _Darwin_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:38 Zakka wrote:
Hey guys just tuning in and the calendar is confusing to me. Is day 2 already over or will there be more games?


like 6 hours to go brah. Stream will be back on in 20 minutes.


thanks brah
Amsterdam
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 22:49:42
November 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#5257
Oh man and winner of CatZ vs. Idra gets Select.

HuK plays winner of Gretorp vs. Zelniq
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
November 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#5258
Anyone know what Warcraft 2 remix (I think) is playing during the pauses on the MLG stream? Please PM me if you know the answer.
Dont fuck up, dont fuck yourself
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
November 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#5259
On November 07 2010 07:46 Waking wrote:
anyone know why the fuck kulas ravine is allowed in MLG?



Because they are using old maps. Blistering sands is actually just as bad or maybe even worse than Kulas though
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
November 06 2010 22:48 GMT
#5260
Go Ret!
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