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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
November 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#5141
So in 30mins, TLO vs Kiwikaki starts? :o
shynee
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
November 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#5142
On November 07 2010 07:25 Dommk wrote:
Meh, don't understand why people are complaining about banelings, ok, you are punished pretty heavily for making a mistake when vsing them, but it is no different than missing a force field on the ramp vs an early marauder push or getting a ton of units EMP'd. I guess Terrans aren't use to having mechanics which are very unforgiving working against them.


Its because the threat is always there and a single misclick or mis micro will cost Terran the entire army. I don't see how thats hard to understand. The punishment of not being on top of your game is too big. It's an instant GG.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
November 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#5143
I am SO fucking proud of the dutchies =) Keep up the awesome work ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#5144
Big problem with banelings is that they massively counter the one unit that can deal with mutas. Yes I know thors do well, but only defensively really. The immobility and other weaknesses of heavy thor/mech play doesnt really make it possible to use them to a large extent though.

That said, machine pulled a solid strategy on a map where its practically impossible to wall off all entrances to your natural. It's funny how easily defended naturals seems to start favoring Ts over Zs in TvZ :p
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#5145
On November 07 2010 07:26 ghostsquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:21 Callanish wrote:
Where did the good ol' terran op in TvZ go?



Terrans started to only open with banshees every single game. Where are the drops? Where are the blue flame helions? Seriously. It's like the T players just gave up and try and keep up in macro and just get stomped because they can't produce as fast as zerg.


IdrA wasn't just BMing when he said terrans were popping up riding on powerful units like speed reapers and fast medivacs.

DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5146
this thread was doing so good earlier without balance talk. cant you guys argue with PM's or something. Its annoying
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5147
On November 07 2010 07:24 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:23 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:19 Graphex wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:19 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:13 zomgad wrote:
beneling should be a lair unit


Marauders should be 3 food and Marines 2 food.




Mutalisk acceleration should be nerfed


Stim should cost more health. Like 50% of the units health.

Seriously, I can do this all day.


Marines should be researched in the Fusion Core.

Depot should require a barracks
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5148
On November 07 2010 07:25 Dommk wrote:
Meh, don't understand why people are complaining about banelings, ok, you are punished pretty heavily for making a mistake when vsing them, but it is no different than missing a force field on the ramp vs an early marauder push or getting a ton of units EMP'd. I guess Terrans aren't use to having mechanics which are very unforgiving working against them.


Well I guess everyone who refers to all terrans or all zergs should fuck off back to the official forums.
Kultur
Profile Joined October 2010
United States26 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5149
On November 07 2010 07:25 Dommk wrote:
Meh, don't understand why people are complaining about banelings, ok, you are punished pretty heavily for making a mistake when vsing them, but it is no different than missing a force field on the ramp vs an early marauder push or getting a ton of units EMP'd. I guess Terrans aren't use to having mechanics which are very unforgiving working against them.



+1. Blings are supposed to crush bioballs thats their purpose.
Tohron
Profile Joined April 2010
United States135 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5150
On November 07 2010 07:23 Jyvblamo wrote:
I can't wait till Blizzard stops patching this game so we can finally have LIVE REPORT THREADS WITHOUT BALANCE DISCUSSIONS LIKE BW.


Frankly, once the patches stop, the discussion will just shift from OMG UNIT IMBA! to OMG MAP IMBA! It will only get better when the beginners who scream about balance stop participating in LR threads.
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5151
On November 07 2010 07:26 Azarkon wrote:
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On November 07 2010 07:24 hugman wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:20 ZlaSHeR wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:09 Moa wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:06 nhoJJohn wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:05 some_pro wrote:
Did you know that Machine asked Select to be practice partners, and Select refused because he thought Machine was not good enough :<



Ooo shit, back story drama ftw!!!

Go machine!


Machine also did this because SeleCT was complaining about not having any Zerg practice partners.


Thats a little off, I was there. Select asked Axslav for practice before MLG DC, and before the patch, and axslav said sure if you want to rotate in with me and strifecro and machine, and select said "no I don't want to practice against zerg, just protoss"


No, Machine asked to practice with Select before Raleigh and Select played a game vs him and then said 'no you're too bad'


That's a bit ironic if true, though this sort of thing does happen a lot in pro circles since they have limited training time and have to pick their practice partners carefully.


sure, but there's a polite way to tell someone you don't want to train with them
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5152
too bad Ret doesnt have dimagas ZvZ so he will get smashed by Sen.
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
ghostsquall
Profile Joined September 2010
United States187 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#5153
On November 07 2010 07:27 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:26 ghostsquall wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:21 Callanish wrote:
Where did the good ol' terran op in TvZ go?



Terrans started to only open with banshees every single game. Where are the drops? Where are the blue flame helions? Seriously. It's like the T players just gave up and try and keep up in macro and just get stomped because they can't produce as fast as zerg.


IdrA wasn't just BMing when he said terrans were popping up riding on powerful units like speed reapers and fast medivacs.




Oh, believe me. I know it. Haha..
i pwn n00bs
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
November 06 2010 22:29 GMT
#5154
On November 07 2010 07:27 shynee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:25 Dommk wrote:
Meh, don't understand why people are complaining about banelings, ok, you are punished pretty heavily for making a mistake when vsing them, but it is no different than missing a force field on the ramp vs an early marauder push or getting a ton of units EMP'd. I guess Terrans aren't use to having mechanics which are very unforgiving working against them.


Its because the threat is always there and a single misclick or mis micro will cost Terran the entire army. I don't see how thats hard to understand. The punishment of not being on top of your game is too big. It's an instant GG.


Exactly like missing a Force Field vsing an early marauder push or getting too many units empd...
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
November 06 2010 22:29 GMT
#5155
On November 07 2010 07:27 shynee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:25 Dommk wrote:
Meh, don't understand why people are complaining about banelings, ok, you are punished pretty heavily for making a mistake when vsing them, but it is no different than missing a force field on the ramp vs an early marauder push or getting a ton of units EMP'd. I guess Terrans aren't use to having mechanics which are very unforgiving working against them.


Its because the threat is always there and a single misclick or mis micro will cost Terran the entire army. I don't see how thats hard to understand. The punishment of not being on top of your game is too big. It's an instant GG.


If you lose your entire army to banelings then its your fault for either getting caught in a choke point or not spreading out your marines. You're saying its too strong because if you make a mistake you're in trouble? Thats the point of this game, mistakes cost you.
Sniffy
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia290 Posts
November 06 2010 22:29 GMT
#5156
Oh look the armchair balance squad has arrived -.-
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
November 06 2010 22:29 GMT
#5157
Oh, i forgot that there's still summertime over there

So confusing o.O
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
ZerOfy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 22:31:09
November 06 2010 22:30 GMT
#5158
On November 07 2010 07:17 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:16 shynee wrote:
On November 07 2010 07:13 dras wrote:
wow, selects tvz is fucking terrible


Who's TvZ is strong? I don't think there is a single pro Terran player who can dominate TvZ, and I'm talking about top players, not the round 1 matches.

Been watching the GSL lately?


Yeah, looks like Foxer is the terrans Fruitdealer this GSL. Although Zergbong is playing really well too.

I just hope a Protoss hero will turn up in GSL3..
My life for Aiur!
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 06 2010 22:30 GMT
#5159
On November 07 2010 07:27 shynee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:25 Dommk wrote:
Meh, don't understand why people are complaining about banelings, ok, you are punished pretty heavily for making a mistake when vsing them, but it is no different than missing a force field on the ramp vs an early marauder push or getting a ton of units EMP'd. I guess Terrans aren't use to having mechanics which are very unforgiving working against them.


Its because the threat is always there and a single misclick or mis micro will cost Terran the entire army. I don't see how thats hard to understand. The punishment of not being on top of your game is too big. It's an instant GG.


Then don't play bio against Zerg? It's not like Z can run lings into tank lines and not die horribly.

It's ridiculous that people are focusing on banelings when Machine was on five bases (main, nat, his gold, his third, Select's third) versus 2 bases on Blistering Sands.
whatsgrackalackin420
Kultur
Profile Joined October 2010
United States26 Posts
November 06 2010 22:30 GMT
#5160
Haypro still kicking:
"Liquid`Haypro (Z) beats attero (T) 2-0 in losers round 4. "
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