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Vexin
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania84 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4181
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Don't be so humble, you're not that great.
pavs
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada26 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4182
lol @ day9 whistling
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4183
On November 07 2010 06:10 Beyonder wrote:
Nazgul did what he had to do to knock out the player most threatening to his team :D And did it succesfully.

Also, do not know who to cheer for this match -_-


Exactly what I was saying, and I'm one of the biggest EG fanboys around admittedly. Naz did the right thing to win the game, he's a truly crafty vet.

And I'm rooting for Ret, what sick play he had against lz earlier.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
jacclark
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada10 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4184
On November 07 2010 06:07 Joementum wrote:
LMFAO. All of teamliquid practiced ONE build versus IdrA? I commend TL on their practicing, but it just goes to show you that IdrA really is that big of a thread.


As a former top-level gamer and athlete, my experience shows that no one really enjoys poor sportsmanship. Competition is difficult enough without needless unpleasantries. Eventually, people get fed up and group together to deal with that behaviour. Like a bully, you eventually got to deal with him before it gets worse.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4185
HuK getting Forge ?
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4186
The IdrA fanboy tears are so delicious
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4187
On November 07 2010 06:08 neoenigma wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Idra doesn't attend another MLG after this crap. Such a horrible map. Removed from ladder for a reason. It's so abusive.

Nazgul basically said "I'm not a better player, so I'm going to choose something BLIZZARD REMOVED FROM THE LADDER" to give me a big advantage."

Of course... Idra made some huge mistakes as well.... but I don't see how he could have defeated that many stalkers that could just blink up and down the map.


I think JP said somewhere recently that MLG doesn't change their rules/maps/etc mid-season, with the exception of using the latest patch. Almost guaranteed next season's map pool will reflect the ladder map pool at that time.
Minx_x
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey68 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4188
On November 07 2010 06:10 Azarkon wrote:
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"Hai guys I heard Idra is pretty tough what should we do?"
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"Boot camp!!!!!!"
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"Darn I got left behind..."

HAHAHAHA amazingggggg :D:D:D:D:D::Dd
Sea[Shield] hwaiting~~
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4189
On November 07 2010 06:06 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 06:04 pieisamazing wrote:
On November 07 2010 06:01 travis wrote:
i love how many idiot noobs act like what nazgul did was at all easy, lol


like, stfu, you're AMAZINGLY clueless

nazgul tried to teach me blink stalker pvz and i failed every time i tried cuz i couldn't do it. and i doubt im worse than any of the idiots talking about how easy this is

It IS easy. Jesus, just because you can't do it you have to act like its impossible for people you know nothing about.



it is NOT EASY, not to micro individual stalkers like that, you're talking out of your ass

what's your rating? have any replays of blink micro vs top players? no??? didn't think so

blink microing individual stalkers while macroing well and keeping map awareness and good decisionmaking is VERY DIFFICULT


In an 4gate all-in you don't need macro beside warping in, not a lot decisionmaking besides attacking-pulling back and not a lot of map awereness either. You can really focus on the micro and then every good wc3 player can pull that micro off.
neoenigma
Profile Joined October 2010
United States243 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4190
I really, really wish Huk only made blink stalkers and abused kulas against Ret. I bet all the liquid fans here would change their tune.
epicopter
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada177 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4191
Why does huk wall leaving two hexes instead of one
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 21:13:25
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4192
On November 07 2010 06:09 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 06:05 RaneStari wrote:
On November 07 2010 06:02 Caphe wrote:
On November 07 2010 05:57 RaneStari wrote:
I don't know why are you guys riding Nazgul's junk so much.

4 gate blink stalker cheese all in every game. If it was anyone else, people would be UP IN ARMS.

"omg 4 gate so gay"

Sure, the micro was impressive... but it was still 4 gate all in on 2 imbalanced maps.

Try to learn some history. Nazgul is the founder of TL, he's been in SC1 since 2002-2003. He got alot of respect in SC/SC2 community.
He doesnt play much, but his play is phenomenal. He is the TL team manager now. I think he just play MLG Dallas for fun...and knock out idra.
People here cheering for him because they respect him. Honestly, Nazgul wouldnt have chance against Idra if he let Idra macro up. Allin is his only option and he took that option.


Like I said previously, I respect Nazgul, but 4 gate blink stalker all in is not impressive, and if anyone else did it to IdrA, people would be hella pissed.


Only blithering idiots would be "hella pissed".

It's a tournament. They're playing for money. If they have a build that will beat Idra, it's their duty to use it to win. And it's Idra's duty to counter those builds.

This isn't professional wrestling. This is an actual competition. No one is obligated to live up to some random Idra fanboy's expectations of the "proper macro game" they find enjoyable.


So F**ing well said. Also, one might think its easy to practise and complete, and that might be right. But I bet these guys practise multiple strats for different maps/races/situations so remembering them all is not an easy deal at all, not to mention executing them.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 21:12:53
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4193
well, that is exactly the point of a clan/ team which is to share strategies together.

Didn't IdrA also lose to oGs in the same way because Zenio and his whole clan prepared a whole bunch of strategis for him.

Anyway, IdrA was also in EG house for a while so He should have been able to play with EG Protosses and train on ALL MLG maps against ALL potential timing attack.

If he didn't, then it's his fault.

Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4194
It seems to me that the key to beating blink stalkers is creep. I saw Idra trying to spread creep along second entrance to his natural in game 3, but I guess it was too little, too late.

All the vulnerable blink stalkers are going to be in the back of the group, so it seems that a good speedling flank could give blink stalkers a lot of trouble. Idra flanked perfectly and crushed Nazgul in game 2. If he had been able to manage it a second time, I think he could have held off the blink stalkers.

Of course, I'm just a scrub, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
war_machine42
Profile Joined November 2010
United States88 Posts
November 06 2010 21:11 GMT
#4195
Doing a shot for Naz, and at least this match is a nice break (relatively speaking). Gonna be good to watch without the nail-biting stress of the previous few.
Day[9], to Jinro: "go away i'm busy"
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#4196
On November 07 2010 06:10 dapierow wrote:
Why are people saying their disappointing in Idra losing to the same strat 3 times in a row? Face it even with hydras with that map NAzgul can abuse anything with blink


So what you are trying to say is that PvZ blink stalkers are unstoppable on Kulas?
o choro é livre
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 21:13:15
November 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#4197
On November 07 2010 06:09 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 06:06 travis wrote:
On November 07 2010 06:04 pieisamazing wrote:
On November 07 2010 06:01 travis wrote:
i love how many idiot noobs act like what nazgul did was at all easy, lol


like, stfu, you're AMAZINGLY clueless

nazgul tried to teach me blink stalker pvz and i failed every time i tried cuz i couldn't do it. and i doubt im worse than any of the idiots talking about how easy this is

It IS easy. Jesus, just because you can't do it you have to act like its impossible for people you know nothing about.



it is NOT EASY, not to micro individual stalkers like that, you're talking out of your ass

what's your rating? have any replays of blink micro vs top players? no??? didn't think so

blink microing individual stalkers while macroing well and keeping map awareness and good decisionmaking is VERY DIFFICULT


Plz dont bring in rating b/c if im correct your liquidtravis on sc who only had 1100 last time i checked


my high was 1300 when the top players were 1600, woopdy shit

im actually pretty good, yeah i have 1100, 1100 playing random (meaning non protoss for the first time), with like 600 bonus points because i didn't play for 2 months straight

in fact, ive played like 10 games in the last 2.5 months
so my rating really doesn't factor in to anything at all. but unlike some random guy i have already proven im good at sc and know wtf im talking about

am i amazing? no
could i be very high rating with maybe 3-4 weeks of effort? definitely
southern
Profile Joined June 2010
United States4 Posts
November 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#4198
On November 07 2010 06:10 Tachion wrote:
It was pretty obvious that Nazgul was terrified of playing a game over 10 mins with Idra going with a 1 base all-in 3 maps in a row. It was a rather flimsy win, but a win none the less, so props to Naz for pulling it off.
Despite a little dirty loss like that though I'm sure most everyone will still agree that Idra is twice the player as Naz.


this
Zuor
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland377 Posts
November 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#4199
After hearing what JP said, I kinda hope that IdrA will fight his way all the way to the finals and beat someone from TL in the finals. That would be quite awesome. But I can't blame TL for doing that I guess, IdrA is such a huge threat in these tournaments.

But for now, Ret hwaiting!
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
November 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#4200
New Nazgul meme "you just got blunk"

rofl
aka. Samael
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