Excellent excellent guide, as a high masters zerg I really agree with this guide, 15 hatch is a tricky bit since a truly great player ( a pro like nestea for instance ) can defend it vs just about everything, but for the rest of us, pretty much everything in this guide goes. ( I say pretty much everything in the fear I missed something ). I hope people will stop saying ZvZ is a coinflip or even a build order win matchup because it really isn't, especially not for the relatively low level players ( masters and grandmasters ).

Jojo131

Brazil1631 Posts

August 19 2011 03:32 GMT

#22

Well definitely bookmark this for later reading going home, looks really good!

Would love to see something similar for ZvT unless I missed it maybe on your website, Im so bad at ZvT -_-.

michaelhasanalias

Korea (South)1231 Posts

August 19 2011 04:35 GMT

#23

this is amazing, thanks.

CrazyOne

Norway3 Posts

August 19 2011 06:39 GMT

#24

You, sir, are amazing/beautiful/great! Thank you so much! Where can I send my donation?

Chaosvuistje

Netherlands2581 Posts

August 19 2011 06:53 GMT

#25

On August 19 2011 12:32 Jojo131 wrote:
Well definitely bookmark this for later reading going home, looks really good!

Would love to see something similar for ZvT unless I missed it maybe on your website, Im so bad at ZvT -_-.

Just use infestorzzzz

Seriously though, my standard zvt has been upgrade ling attack + get infestors + get third base + get carapace upgrades ( should have +2 melee now ) + get hive + get ultralisks + banelings with baneling speed + a move.

I haven't written a guide about it because I'm scared I will piss some terrans off ( ultralisk/speedbaneling is absolutely disgusting to look at ) but I guess I can make a guide about that later, I'll post some on google plus first like I always do.

Oh god I just made an anouncement about an anouncement.

theonlyshaft

United States581 Posts

August 19 2011 07:45 GMT

#26

Dude... this is ridiculously amazing. OMGosh. Everything I've been thinking (and a hell of a lot more) finally put into words. I really like the way you've got this organized, with step by step analysis

Twelve12

Australia268 Posts

August 19 2011 07:50 GMT

#27

amazing guide....you have 1337 posts as well (the best possible number)

Chaosvuistje

Netherlands2581 Posts

August 19 2011 10:19 GMT

#28

Added a couple of corrections to the guide ( fungal kills hydra's in 3 hits instead of 2.. hydra's still suck but eh ) and I added a nice intro picture for the Nestea ZvZ bit. I also added a couple of convinient links linking to the vods of him using said mutalisk style in that section.

I just wanted to add that my google analytics program just shows two lines, a horizontal one for my viewers on the time pre-blog, and a vertical one when I publicized this post. It's insane.

ComaCat

United Kingdom33 Posts

August 19 2011 11:57 GMT

#29

Best guide ive read, would love to see a comprehensive guide that follows ZvT and ZvP

PeZuY

935 Posts

August 19 2011 12:02 GMT

#30

Well written guide, helped me actually with few tips thank youuuuuu!

Editor_In_Chimp

Australia36 Posts

August 19 2011 12:11 GMT

#31

Oh wow thanks for the effort definitely something to read on Sunday :D Had to realise this just before I go to bed... I would read it but Im useless after like 11pm at night. Thanks again!

shadowy

Bulgaria305 Posts

August 19 2011 13:09 GMT

#32

That's extremely nice write up. All the efforts you put into really shine.

Thank you, I sincerely enjoyed it.

kob42

Sweden39 Posts

August 19 2011 13:15 GMT

#33

Nice guide! Ty

theholygoat

United Kingdom3 Posts

August 19 2011 14:09 GMT

#34

As someone at the very bottom of the ZvZ foodchain, thank you for this guide!

Evilruler

Brazil116 Posts

August 19 2011 14:38 GMT

#35

Still reading but it completly awesome so far. I've learned my way in ZvZ in a blunt way, I don't know the refined tricks and timings, I just have a feeling and generally can finish the match with a timing attack +1 or +2 with roaches (platinum). Learning all the other good stuff will just improve a lot my play since this is my worst MU, I'm guessing...

Chaosvuistje

Netherlands2581 Posts

August 19 2011 18:07 GMT

#36

Finally the views start cooling down. Alright, let's crunch some numbers.

Today, the guide recieved 13.5k viewers. Most of which come from the US, and the biggest referrer is reddit ( at 11k viewers, dang, I thought TL would bring more ).

All in all, I've had a great day keeping track of everything and fixing some comment issues ( there are still some that haunt me, but I'll get them ). I might eventually start on a ZvT guide, but you have to understand that this guide alone took me 2 days to write ( 15 hours and a bit, not counting making the images or making the html ) so I might start doing some smaller projects first.

I want to thank all of you who read this, either from reddit or TL. And I hope we will all reach the fun lategame together <3.

Tribuno

Italy261 Posts

August 21 2011 18:15 GMT

#37

the best z v z guide i have ever read.. by far! Very useful and complete analysis. If u will make a Z v T guide as well... it would be awesome!

Chaosvuistje

Netherlands2581 Posts

August 23 2011 10:33 GMT

#38

My apologies to everyone who visited the site on a mobile device and got ( sort of ) a testing screen instead of a true mobile optimized page.

It is all fixed now, except the portfolio. I'll style a couple of things such as the tables and the comments, but otherwise it works well now

. Thanks all of you fine folks for refferencing to my guide, and I have met a couple of zergs that are definitely proficient in ZvZ in a higher percentage than before.

Vandroy

Sweden155 Posts

August 24 2011 13:40 GMT

#39

woa that's one beastly guide, great work!

GhoSt[shield]

Canada2131 Posts

August 24 2011 13:46 GMT

#40

This is so incredible and in-depth. Thank you for this huge guide. I look forward to finishing it and posting about it later. Thanks!

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