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[Code S] Ro8 Day One Recap

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[Code S] Ro8 Day One Recap

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October 4th, 2012 01:36 GMT
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Code S Ro8: Day 1 Recap


By: Porcelina


Results from Live Report Thread by opterown.

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
By.Rain vs. HerO
[image loading] By.Rain <Entombed Valley> [image loading] HerO
[image loading] By.Rain <Abyssal City> [image loading] HerO
[image loading] By.Rain <Daybreak> [image loading] HerO
[image loading] By.Rain <Whirlwind> [image loading] HerO
[image loading] By.Rain <Antiga Shipyard> [image loading] HerO


[image loading] By.Rain wins 3-0!



Mvp vs. Symbol
[image loading] Mvp <Abyssal City> [image loading] Symbol
[image loading] Mvp <Daybreak> [image loading] Symbol
[image loading] Mvp <Antiga Shipyard> [image loading] Symbol
[image loading] Mvp <Ohana > [image loading] Symbol
[image loading] Mvp <Entombed Valley> [image loading] Symbol

[image loading] Mvp wins 3-1!


All animals are equals, but some animals are more equal than others.

I have seen the future and it works
– (P)SKT_By.Rain demolishes (P)Liquid`HerO 3 – 0 to advance to the semi-finals.


This quarter-final's only PvP had an interesting premise. On the one hand, you had HerO, a fan favorite, historically weak at the matchup. On the other, you had Rain, historically good at everything, albeit with a short history. HerO did look strong as he advanced to the quarters defeating Squirtle, but the odds did not seem to be in his favor given the bracket. Meanwhile, Rain went into the match with an OSL victory over Parting, though interestingly most of his notable losses in both ProLeague and WCS Korea had been in mirror matches.

As much as HerO fans saw glimmers of hope in HerO’s demeanour and trajectory, some cold, hard truths were to be revealed. It should scarcely surprise anyone that Rain is an outstanding player, but perhaps it has not yet sunk in just how powerful.

The games were quite frankly brutal. It looked like HerO had prepared to face a Protoss he could fight straight up. Rain insisted on opening safely, incorporating robotics all three games. It was a representation of the faith the SKT player must have in himself at this point; he knows that if he can stay safe and not fall to build order losses, he will win. While HerO’s openings were not bad per se, he was never able to get a clear hold on the game. And whenever Rain found himself largely even or ahead, he would inescapably turn equality into advantage, advantage into momentum and momentum into victory.

Within the constraints of PvP, what impressed was how Rain was always getting ahead in terms of what matters the most. I commended Leenock on doing the same against HerO in the round of sixteen, and this was more of the same but on a different scale. Rain would lose his natural in game one, but stay far ahead on immortals. He would also use that advantage to be the first to transition to colossi and attack upgrades. In game two, the same story unfolded before our eyes. With HerO going blink stalkers instead of teching to dark templars like the last time. Rain again deflected attacks with an army superior to his opponent’s head to head. And these small advantages would again transition into bigger ones in the form of colossi and upgrades. Finally, facing elimination from the tournament, HerO opted to open robotics to mirror his opponent. Again, when they first met on the battlefield, Rain’s engagement was superior. This time, it was all but enough to be the final blow needed. Rain finished off the task in style, dispatching of his Liquid foe 3 – 0.

The empires of the future are the empires of the mind.

Rain is making good on the claims that he can win both of StarCraft’s two premier tournaments in the same time frame. When he competed in WCS Korea, he defeated Horror, Leenock, Jaedong and Curious and we thought his PvZ was clearly his best matchup. Then, in the group stages of Code S, he defeated Byun, Taeja and Polt and we thought his PvT was clearly his best matchup. Now he has defeated Parting and HerO in his round of eight appearances in OSL and GSL.

When a player looks like he has three different best matchups in the space of a few weeks, it's understandable that there's a considerable amount of hype. When he does it while also increasing his skill exponentially, he looks set to become the best player the world has seen.

I have seen the future and it doesn’t work
– (T)LG-IM_Mvp shows signs of a return to glory, defeating (Z)TSL_Symbol 3 – 1.


There are a few common elements when it comes to most descriptions of Mvp by Team Liquid writers. Most would say that he is not as good as he once were, that he relies more on trickery and guile than brute force now than he did before. It will also commonly be noted that while this is true, he has a will to win and knowledge of how to win unparalleled by his peers.

Quite frankly, Mvp remains a bit of a mystery. Given his physical condition, it seems like there should be no way for him to be as good as he is. His TvZ, good enough to basically single-handedly get ghosts nerfed, was perhaps his worst before IEM Cologne happened. With that tournament win, completing his trifecta of continental championships, he showed that not only can he keep on getting top results, he can engineer ways to play that will counteract his limitations.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

As was the case in the first match of the day, this was another display of dominance. Mvp started off the day on what most pros consider a top notch ZvX map, Abyssal City, with his trademark mech play. Since its inception, it has become a staple of both the ladder and tournament scene, thus one would believe that Symbol would come fully prepared. However, as much as this should have been true tactically, Mvp simply brushed his opponent aside with mechanics.

If what we have held to be true about Mvp since he won season two actually is, this should not have happened. Symbol is the kind of player one would expect to match up well in every respect but experience. The TSL Zerg might have lost some of his ZvT lustre since being the chosen one in both GSTL and last season’s GSL, but long, drawn out macro games should be his forte.

Game two featured a detour into roach/bling/ling attack, but Mvp came back to take the last two games with beautiful bio/tank play. As much as Mvp’s introduction of mech TvZ as the new standard brought back the image of his former, dominant self, this was a full return. In games, his macro, micro and decision making was a cut above that of Symbol. He took few risks, but played a solid style we see in players perfectly comfortable in their own prowess. For a player portrayed to mask his own weakness with new strategies, this sends a powerful message. Mvp held the games in a vice-like grip, reminiscent of Mvp at his very peak.

It did not matter whether Mvp was playing with hellions, banshees and thors or whether he deployed marines, tanks and medivacs. He was the better player. He was in control. He was Mvp.

With Mvp, we face an interesting question. Is this a triumphant return of Mvp, the undisputed best Terran in the world? Can his health sustain that in the long run? It is doubtful it can, but for this season, all he needs is two more matches of being at his best. To say that those days are squarely behind him would be blind; just when we thought he might be out of tricks and out of surprises, he busts out the biggest surprise so far. He returned to glory, returned to form and returned to dominance in all aspects of the game.

About as similar as two completely dissimilar things in a pod.

Rain is from the future. He is a messenger of things to come. He is what we reach for.

Mvp is from the past. He is the guardian of how things were. He is what we learn from.

It is interesting to think of what could have been. If Rain had been the one transitioning to SC2 early on, would Mvp have been the one to make a claim to be the strongest KeSPA player? Would Rain have been a four time champion?

Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

It is as if they are approaching the same point from opposite sides. They both do it with momentum, with dominance and with brilliance. That point will be illustrated by their meeting in the round of four. We might not be big brother, but Mvp and Rain; we will be watching you.





Writer: Porcelina.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editors: Waxangel.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 04 2012 01:48 GMT
#2
Sun vs MVP should be a crazy match up. O_O I'd think that MVP will have learned a lot from Sun's games in the RO16.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 04 2012 01:50 GMT
#3
Fucking brilliant. I'm super hyped up for the meeting of MVP and Rain. Time to sleep now though at 8:00 PM. I must wake to watch MKP return to power.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 04 2012 01:50 GMT
#4
Why is there a quote from Churchill, among all those Orwellian references? Is this some sort of message?
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
October 04 2012 01:52 GMT
#5
Wow, really nice recap Porce and wax, especially liked the ending! Keep this up guys!!!!
Rain is from the future. He is a messenger of things to come. He is what we reach for.

Mvp is from the past. He is the guardian of how things were. He is what we learn from.

It is interesting to think of what could have been. If Rain had been the one transitioning to SC2 early on, would Mvp have been the one to make a claim to be the strongest KeSPA player? Would Rain have been a four time champion?

Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

I had the sickest nerd chills at this part.
On another note I really feel sorry for hero ;( but this should be an incredibly good RO4 match between the old and the new!
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
October 04 2012 01:54 GMT
#6
I love your works Porcelina, I'm glad you were picked up as a writer!
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 02:04:21
October 04 2012 02:04 GMT
#7
Awesome write up!
GOGO RAIN!
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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
October 04 2012 02:12 GMT
#8
Poor HerO
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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
October 04 2012 02:20 GMT
#9
amazing write up Porcelina! Looking forward to more in future.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
October 04 2012 02:25 GMT
#10
MVP for 5 time champion!!
Long live the Boss Toss!
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
October 04 2012 02:30 GMT
#11
Did you quote... Blackadder? That's a rather cunning plan....
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
October 04 2012 02:38 GMT
#12
Wow.....Rain is damn good. 1st kespa gsl champion????
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 04 2012 02:43 GMT
#13
Watching the VODs of Mvp vs Symbol this morning I was amazed at how Mvp was once again winning his games through sheer mechanics and ability, macro, micro, multitasking. He played like he used to in 2011 and better. Crazy stuff. I had full confidence in Rain making the finals of this GSL but now that he has to face that kind of Mvp, I just don't know...We'll find out.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 04 2012 02:49 GMT
#14
On October 04 2012 10:52 isaachukfan wrote:
Wow, really nice recap Porce and wax, especially liked the ending! Keep this up guys!!!!
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Rain is from the future. He is a messenger of things to come. He is what we reach for.

Mvp is from the past. He is the guardian of how things were. He is what we learn from.

It is interesting to think of what could have been. If Rain had been the one transitioning to SC2 early on, would Mvp have been the one to make a claim to be the strongest KeSPA player? Would Rain have been a four time champion?

Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

I had the sickest nerd chills at this part.
On another note I really feel sorry for hero ;( but this should be an incredibly good RO4 match between the old and the new!


Agreed. Such a great ending to the recap article!

Could start a debate on that answer, but too late the LR thread has been derailed by this argument haha.

Super hyped for Rain vs Mvp. Gogo King Mvp!
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Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
October 04 2012 02:50 GMT
#15
my god Rain is a beast, the #1 contender for the GSL title atm.
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 04 2012 02:52 GMT
#16
Mvp is looking, quite frankly, better than he has looked this entire year.

Rain is looking like, quite frankly, the scariest player in the game right now.

A clash of this magnitude doesn't end in lackluster performances and disappointing results. It ends in a match that will certainly prove itself to be among the most anticipated and most intriguing of all recent matches.

+ Show Spoiler +
It will end in Mvp's victory, of course!
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mistsifter
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia44 Posts
October 04 2012 03:08 GMT
#17
Nice article, Porcelina you're quickly becoming my favorite TL writer.

I hope Hero doesn't get too effected by his loss.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 04 2012 03:16 GMT
#18
Brilliant write up, Porcelina. ^^ Loved it. Got chills at the ending.

Mvp's starting to look like his old self, more and more. But I'm afraid unless he can fully return to his prime, he won't be able to take on Rain. I've bet against Mvp only once before, in season two against PartinG and I was wrong. I seriously hope I'm wrong this time, too. Rain 3:1 Mvp.
Long live the King of Wings
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
October 04 2012 03:27 GMT
#19
that 1984 quote. well done, porcelina, well done.

sad to see HerO go, not a fan of Rain's play at all. Kinda hoped symbol would make it through as well

no big deal, gogo TaeJa Mvp finals!
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
October 04 2012 03:38 GMT
#20
Forgot that this was on yesterday and sucks to see HerO lose but still...
Hoping for a Sun/Rain vs Taeja finals.
Royal roader, first KeSPA participant ever in the GSL, in both big ro4 tournaments right now. Really nice story..
And hey.. if Taeja wins.. he's Taeja. ^^
Mmm, what to watch.
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