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Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
September 26 2012 08:46 GMT
#61
MVP > JYP
CRS > MKP
CRS > MVP
MKP > JYP
MVP > MKP

CRS AND MVP ADV
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
September 26 2012 08:59 GMT
#62
On September 26 2012 15:55 Qaatar wrote:
"MKP might be the most mechanically gifted pro-gamer in the entire world"

I hope you mean amongst the ESF pros, because there's no way that this statement is even remotely true if we count the Kespa guys. MKP more mechanically gifted than Baby, Bisu, JD, or Flash? Are you kidding me?


he is at least on the same level! The fact, that he didn't make it in BW doesn't prove anything here. You need to have much more and different qualities to make it as a pro gamer. And in the kespa scene it's even harder. I would totally agree here.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
September 26 2012 09:31 GMT
#63
maru vs effort = the best series played in sc2.
-Hitman-
Profile Joined September 2012
56 Posts
September 26 2012 10:14 GMT
#64
Real nice write-up, loved the NSHS hahaha. Its sad, but true.

Love you are not betting against Mvp, its way to dangerous to do so. Looking forward to the rest of the matches, dont see Jyp getting out - perhaps both MKP and Curious will make it
-Hitman-
Profile Joined September 2012
56 Posts
September 26 2012 10:17 GMT
#65
On September 26 2012 17:59 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 15:55 Qaatar wrote:
"MKP might be the most mechanically gifted pro-gamer in the entire world"

I hope you mean amongst the ESF pros, because there's no way that this statement is even remotely true if we count the Kespa guys. MKP more mechanically gifted than Baby, Bisu, JD, or Flash? Are you kidding me?


he is at least on the same level! The fact, that he didn't make it in BW doesn't prove anything here. You need to have much more and different qualities to make it as a pro gamer. And in the kespa scene it's even harder. I would totally agree here.


All elephants are mechanically gifted to find water in deserts or play starcraft. I dont see the statement from Wax as an elephant challenge - its just because MKP mechanics are so sick man :-)
poohzz
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)10 Posts
September 26 2012 10:31 GMT
#66
cheese win and build order win, plz give me some serious matches...
ㅈㅈ
ArtOfStyLe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany51 Posts
September 26 2012 10:36 GMT
#67
eh MaNa dissapointed a lot , losing to mediocer players.... still he is great player. But he needs to learn soooo much more i guess.
Hi there:)
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
September 26 2012 10:45 GMT
#68
On September 26 2012 19:17 -Hitman- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 17:59 TeeTS wrote:
On September 26 2012 15:55 Qaatar wrote:
"MKP might be the most mechanically gifted pro-gamer in the entire world"

I hope you mean amongst the ESF pros, because there's no way that this statement is even remotely true if we count the Kespa guys. MKP more mechanically gifted than Baby, Bisu, JD, or Flash? Are you kidding me?


he is at least on the same level! The fact, that he didn't make it in BW doesn't prove anything here. You need to have much more and different qualities to make it as a pro gamer. And in the kespa scene it's even harder. I would totally agree here.


All elephants are mechanically gifted to find water in deserts or play starcraft. I dont see the statement from Wax as an elephant challenge - its just because MKP mechanics are so sick man :-)


His mechanics are not that sick...micro and macro =/= mechanics. Mechanics also mean, being able to construct an effective sim-city (i.e. building placement), being able to execute efficient actions under pressure (not getting supply blocked while under attack, etc.), and other things like maximizing mining efficiency at every base even in the late game. MKP isn't great at any of those things, and I'd argue that he's actually quite poor at building placement, while being pretty average at the other two. Multitasking is also a factor in all of these areas, since doing anything under enemy pressure requires good multitasking. MKP's multitasking is one of his weaknesses.

I'm not saying any of this to denegrate MKP in any way. But, saying that he might be, or is even one of, the most mechanically gifted RTS pro-gamers in the world is a stretch, to say the least.

Also, being "gifted", in my vocabulary, means being able to learn and excel at a fast pace. If that were the case. MKP should have shined LONG ago at MBC, instead of being relegated to the B-team. Baby was kicking ass at age 14, and Flash was owning A-class players at 16. That's being gifted.

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Amoment
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany175 Posts
September 26 2012 10:47 GMT
#69
Korean Terran > Foreign Protoss
6000 MMR/competitive Dota 2 player. SC2 LOTV Grandmaster - WoL Top 75 EU, 150 World. YouTuber.
-Hitman-
Profile Joined September 2012
56 Posts
September 26 2012 10:57 GMT
#70
On September 26 2012 19:45 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 19:17 -Hitman- wrote:
On September 26 2012 17:59 TeeTS wrote:
On September 26 2012 15:55 Qaatar wrote:
"MKP might be the most mechanically gifted pro-gamer in the entire world"

I hope you mean amongst the ESF pros, because there's no way that this statement is even remotely true if we count the Kespa guys. MKP more mechanically gifted than Baby, Bisu, JD, or Flash? Are you kidding me?


he is at least on the same level! The fact, that he didn't make it in BW doesn't prove anything here. You need to have much more and different qualities to make it as a pro gamer. And in the kespa scene it's even harder. I would totally agree here.


All elephants are mechanically gifted to find water in deserts or play starcraft. I dont see the statement from Wax as an elephant challenge - its just because MKP mechanics are so sick man :-)


His mechanics are not that sick...micro and macro =/= mechanics. Mechanics also mean, being able to construct an effective sim-city (i.e. building placement), being able to execute efficient actions under pressure (not getting supply blocked while under attack, etc.), and other things like maximizing mining efficiency at every base even in the late game. MKP isn't great at any of those things, and I'd argue that he's actually quite poor at building placement, while being pretty average at the other two. Multitasking is also a factor in all of these areas, since doing anything under enemy pressure requires good multitasking. MKP's multitasking is one of his weaknesses.

I'm not saying any of this to denegrate MKP in any way. But, saying that he might be, or is even one of, the most mechanically gifted RTS pro-gamers in the world is a stretch, to say the least.

Also, being "gifted", in my vocabulary, means being able to learn and excel at a fast pace. If that were the case. MKP should have shined LONG ago at MBC, instead of being relegated to the B-team. Baby was kicking ass at age 14, and Flash was owning A-class players at 16. That's being gifted.


Okay Wax, did what I could :D I surrender now.


On a side-note, I think its scary how confident Tastosis are about Mvp winning over MKP, i feel its more like 50/50 at best for Mvp.
-Hitman-
Profile Joined September 2012
56 Posts
September 26 2012 11:04 GMT
#71
On September 26 2012 19:57 -Hitman- wrote:
On a side-note, I think its scary how confident Tastosis are about Mvp winning over MKP, i feel its more like 50/50 at best for Mvp.


Okay damn, I take that back haha.
poohzz
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 11:20:24
September 26 2012 11:19 GMT
#72
u better take that back, that was pure outplay
ㅈㅈ
-Hitman-
Profile Joined September 2012
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 12:17:09
September 26 2012 12:16 GMT
#73
On September 26 2012 20:19 poohzz wrote:
u better take that back, that was pure outplay


Haha already did :-) Im so happy now!
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
September 26 2012 13:34 GMT
#74
First group that the favourites actually delivered and got out. Not amazing play by Mvp and MKP, but at least they secured Code S for next season.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
alphakennybody
Profile Joined September 2011
35 Posts
September 26 2012 13:56 GMT
#75
On September 26 2012 15:05 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 11:36 alphakennybody wrote:
Sorry guys. Curious won't win a single set in a group like this. Unless vs jyp.
JYP always seems to be held back by formidable s class players as well as jyp.
I don't see them breaking the curse just because mvp and mkp seem to be less than immortal.


lol what are you talking, JYP is probably the hardest player curious will have to face........ he should defeat mkp and mvp....

=[
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 26 2012 14:40 GMT
#76
Nice one, cursing Curious
eden-san
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium42 Posts
September 26 2012 15:01 GMT
#77
On September 26 2012 17:46 Surth wrote:
MVP > JYP
CRS > MKP
CRS > MVP
MKP > JYP
MVP > MKP

CRS AND MVP ADV

I SEE WAT YOU DID THR!
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
September 26 2012 15:18 GMT
#78
All these Mvp doubters.

Tsk tsk. When will you learn?
secret - never again
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 15:35:28
September 26 2012 15:33 GMT
#79
On September 26 2012 09:39 Doubting wrote:
Curious is going to destroy this group

:D
I would have already laughed at that when I read it before the games.
I was 100% shure that MVP will advance, either with cheesy style or his solid standard play.Sure, he had his medical problems, but then he just switched to a more cheesy style (some would call it protoss style ;-) )until it got better, so he is playing overall better again.
Maru with his awesome micro and always interesting builds has my cheers since i saw the very first game of him. I was sure, but not 100% sure that he will advance.
Leaving "the other two". I expected JYP to go strong, so in no way curious would advance.
0-4 for curious is the outcome, although I wouldn't say he was that far off
VgT
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil1 Post
September 26 2012 16:30 GMT
#80
Funny how someone said curious would 4-0 this group! ))
MVP - MKP FTW!!
loved their performance!
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