On August 06 2012 15:23 Waxangel wrote: I think annoying elitists would argue that given the relative match-up strengths at the time, JD shouldn't have been favored against against Hydra at the PDPop MSL semis (February 2011), but popular opinion probably favored him by a lot.
Flash had a slight edge when JD faced off against him in the Korean Air OSL S2 finals, but ridiculously JD fandom narrows the margin so it's hard to say he was CLEARLY the underdog (September 2010). Technically, I think this date is the one that stands, and would be the last series Jaedong was not the favorite in. A little short of 2 years.
Going back even further to find series he was CLEARY the underdog in, I'm gonna go with his match vs Much in 2007 OSL Dual Tournament. (April 2007)
Other candidates: vs Sea in Challenge League 2007 (July 2007)
I remember LBing Hydra vs Jaedong, even though Jaedong was still "favored" by most; Hydra had the ZvZ "force" going for him at the time.
I thought Flash had a decent edge in KA OSL S2. But yeah, other than a few questionable cases, he hasn't been a true "underdog" ever since he learned to ZvP vs Stork with his ee han timing at the beginning of 2008.
He lost his last 3 games against Light in late '10 early '11...
Talking about By.Sun Instead of getting a chance to roll over a GOM player on the fringe of Code A or wallowing in Code B
Talking about Jaedong Similar to By.Sun, if Jaedong was facing a (Z)HoRRoR or (T)dreamertt, you could make a strong argument that with his experience combined with his improving skills give him a good chance of advancing.
It's funny how the asumption that the best kespa players already pretty much equal~ medium code A players, has first be insinuated by some fools and his now assumed by quite a few.
Expecting two quick 2-0, maybe 2-1 if Alive goes for an overly aggressive all-in which gets blocked.
On August 06 2012 15:23 Waxangel wrote: I think annoying elitists would argue that given the relative match-up strengths at the time, JD shouldn't have been favored against against Hydra at the PDPop MSL semis (February 2011), but popular opinion probably favored him by a lot.
Flash had a slight edge when JD faced off against him in the Korean Air OSL S2 finals, but ridiculously JD fandom narrows the margin so it's hard to say he was CLEARLY the underdog (September 2010). Technically, I think this date is the one that stands, and would be the last series Jaedong was not the favorite in. A little short of 2 years.
Going back even further to find series he was CLEARY the underdog in, I'm gonna go with his match vs Much in 2007 OSL Dual Tournament. (April 2007)
Other candidates: vs Sea in Challenge League 2007 (July 2007)
I remember LBing Hydra vs Jaedong, even though Jaedong was still "favored" by most; Hydra had the ZvZ "force" going for him at the time.
I thought Flash had a decent edge in KA OSL S2. But yeah, other than a few questionable cases, he hasn't been a true "underdog" ever since he learned to ZvP vs Stork with his ee han timing at the beginning of 2008.
He lost his last 3 games against Light in late '10 early '11...
I'd say Light-Jaedong was about even at that point. Light certainly had a stronger lategame, but that was around the time JD won an epic MSL semifinal 3-2 over Light (in the other semifinal, Flash beat Fantasy in yet another epic semifinal.) Yes, Jaedong had to resort to early ling runbys (damn, how do I pluralize that word...) to beat Light, but I don't think Light was "favored" by very much at that point. LIght was not much more favored than Hydra was in PDPop.
EPT
