• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:27
CEST 00:27
KST 07:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon265.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes28Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon HomeStory Cup In Early July 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9>
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool First season(s) of tastosis gomtv gsl vods? Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4732 users

Blizzard Cup - Finals Preview - Page 2

Forum Index > News
95 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 17 2011 03:07 GMT
#21
DRG fighting! hypehype
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
December 17 2011 03:15 GMT
#22
awesome read! thank you! :D

and gomtv will also have my money if entrance ceremonies are in! hahaha!

finally, DRG FIGHTING!
^^
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
December 17 2011 03:20 GMT
#23
That was an amazing preview.

Thank you so much to the people writing, compiling and formatting this. Such a pleasure to read. <3
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
December 17 2011 03:21 GMT
#24
what about IU?
Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
December 17 2011 03:24 GMT
#25
I like them both but MMA has proven time and time again that he can defy all odds when they're stacked against him. Like a true champ I believe the maps won't end up making a difference to him.

I like them both, but MMA is gonna take this 4-3. MMA fighting!
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
dbosworld
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States317 Posts
December 17 2011 03:31 GMT
#26
GO SASE HAHA
Former CAL-I/CPL CounterStrike Player - Halo1PC CPL/CAL Player
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 17 2011 03:32 GMT
#27
I actually feel sad to see the writer bashing MC so hard for going carriers. He played for the fans, he tried freshly flashy build, he was trying to get carriers buffed. Whatever the reason is, MC got my applause
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
December 17 2011 03:36 GMT
#28
hahaha that poster is so gosu. gg alteredclone
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 03:45:54
December 17 2011 03:42 GMT
#29
I... Don't understand how the first 4 maps favor DRG (except Dual sight because no matter what the stats are on that map he always wins on that map lol). Statistically the stats are these on korea TLPD

Crossfire 6-5 tvz (small game size yes but pretty balanced)

Taldarim Altar 57-44 tvz (56.4% favoring terran). The only time this map is favored for zerg is cross which is only a 1 in 3 chance.

Belshir beach winter 9-5 tvz (favoring terran). Seems very zerg favored (sarcasm for those who think I am serious).

Dual sight 1.1 (13-9 favoring terran again). I also thought this map was generally considered a terran favored map but a zerg favored map in zvp.

Daybreak (33 - 41 55.4% favoring zerg)

Antiga (14-8 favoring terran)

Shakuras (10-10 favoring terran and zerg evenly!)

So those first 4 maps are supposed to be heavily favored for DRG but they are all favoring terran (even with small sample sizes they are not that bad for terran at all). 1 map out of the entire 7 favors zerg a decent amount that being Daybreak.

Sorry just bugs me when people say these maps are zerg favored, especially "so zerg favored" when statistically not even close lol.


I took them all from TLPD korean section as that is a more accurate look due to the fact koreans have way better terrans.

Nice preview can't wait for the finals and hope DRG takes it since MVP is out
When I think of something else, something will go here
Kahuna.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada196 Posts
December 17 2011 03:54 GMT
#30
Nice write-up, but poor prediction I think. MMA is a better player than DRG. 4-2 MMA if he wins Game 1, and 4-3 MMA if he loses Game 1.
"Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 17 2011 03:55 GMT
#31
Heh, I was wondering when the Naniwa vs Nestea gif would make an appearance in a writeup.
ffxiv enjoyer
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 17 2011 03:57 GMT
#32
The awards section was awkward at best.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
`MemoRY
Profile Joined January 2011
United States80 Posts
December 17 2011 04:00 GMT
#33
God damn do I love that NaNi poster
Jaedong | MarineKing | NaNiwa | ToD
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 04:13:28
December 17 2011 04:09 GMT
#34
Good writeup, but
I know there are time constraints, but there are a lot of mistakes in this writeup.

In DRG vs terran, there is muta-ling-ling, is that meant to be Muta-ling-bling? Or is this a joke im not getting?
4th paragraph of the Stephano award, first sentence needs a 'not'
There is a second game 1 in the MMA vs MVP review

(going back through there aren't that many mistakes, great job. But I was frustrated reading it initially. So either someone went and edited it or my brain filtered out the mistakes on the second read. Or maybe I am just easily frustrated)
magicaljobo
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia113 Posts
December 17 2011 04:23 GMT
#35
Sooooooo HYPED!!!!

MMA fighting :D
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 04:29:43
December 17 2011 04:27 GMT
#36
On December 17 2011 12:42 blade55555 wrote:
I... Don't understand how the first 4 maps favor DRG (except Dual sight because no matter what the stats are on that map he always wins on that map lol). Statistically the stats are these on korea TLPD

Crossfire 6-5 tvz (small game size yes but pretty balanced)

Taldarim Altar 57-44 tvz (56.4% favoring terran). The only time this map is favored for zerg is cross which is only a 1 in 3 chance.

Belshir beach winter 9-5 tvz (favoring terran). Seems very zerg favored (sarcasm for those who think I am serious).

Dual sight 1.1 (13-9 favoring terran again). I also thought this map was generally considered a terran favored map but a zerg favored map in zvp.

Daybreak (33 - 41 55.4% favoring zerg)

Antiga (14-8 favoring terran)

Shakuras (10-10 favoring terran and zerg evenly!)

So those first 4 maps are supposed to be heavily favored for DRG but they are all favoring terran (even with small sample sizes they are not that bad for terran at all). 1 map out of the entire 7 favors zerg a decent amount that being Daybreak.

Sorry just bugs me when people say these maps are zerg favored, especially "so zerg favored" when statistically not even close lol.


I took them all from TLPD korean section as that is a more accurate look due to the fact koreans have way better terrans.

Nice preview can't wait for the finals and hope DRG takes it since MVP is out



DRG != another Zerg
that what make him the best ZvTer
and
Crossfire is the map that MMA rarely win (he cheese in this map or get cheese all the time lol)
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
December 17 2011 04:36 GMT
#37
Really good read, glad to see such a long preview, go DRG!
Jjakji | Sage | Seal | Shuttle | DongRaeGu | oGsTheSTC | Bomber | Curious | Oz
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 05:39:55
December 17 2011 04:44 GMT
#38
I think DRG will win but MMA has my vote!

HauntYou
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada68 Posts
December 17 2011 05:05 GMT
#39
On December 17 2011 12:42 blade55555 wrote:
I... Don't understand how the first 4 maps favor DRG (except Dual sight because no matter what the stats are on that map he always wins on that map lol). Statistically the stats are these on korea TLPD

So those first 4 maps are supposed to be heavily favored for DRG but they are all favoring terran (even with small sample sizes they are not that bad for terran at all). 1 map out of the entire 7 favors zerg a decent amount that being Daybreak.

Sorry just bugs me when people say these maps are zerg favored, especially "so zerg favored" when statistically not even close lol.


The players themselves seem to agree that the map balance favours DRG for the first three/four and then the rest favour MMA. Seems like a bit more goes into map balance than just TLPD stats, especially considering respective playstyles and the fact that there are more Terrans that are better at TvZ than Zergs at ZvT at the moment. We're also considering just the two best TvZ/ZvT players and not the Zerg/Terran race in its entirety, so in that case, it might be better to trust the professionals over the stats. Even while the maps favour Terran you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who would say MMA has a 4-0 easily in the bag.

Of course, you could have meant that being DRG-favoured isn't the same thing as being Zerg-favoured and maybe this is more of a semantics/terminology argument than anything else, and I'd agree with you.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 05:08:52
December 17 2011 05:08 GMT
#40
Excellent write up as always!

I want DRG to win 4-2 But i think MMA is going to win this no problem.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE148
Railgan 147
ProTech13
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 341
NaDa 17
Bale 6
Counter-Strike
summit1g7073
fl0m1355
Super Smash Bros
PPMD34
Other Games
Grubby3484
C9.Mang0358
UpATreeSC97
Mew2King34
JuggernautJason15
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV238
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream189
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 33
• Adnapsc2 12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21269
Other Games
• imaqtpie1127
• Shiphtur324
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
11h 33m
HomeStory Cup
12h 33m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
HomeStory Cup
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W1
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.