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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 22:58:01
February 27 2011 22:53 GMT
#101
Considering that the foreigners here are the best of the best, I'd rather have seen no Koreans than Koreans who aren't also the best of the best.

Although Ace, Squirtle, and Moon are great players and have good chances of winning, I don't feel like they represent Korea the way the rest of the players represent their country. Not trying to be too negative, it'll still be a great tournament, it just doesn't feel like a "world championship" without players like MVP and NesTea who have good cases for being the best in the world.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
February 27 2011 22:56 GMT
#102
Why are there no team liquid players

This is going to be awesome anyways though !
Try another route paperboy.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
February 27 2011 22:57 GMT
#103
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.


My argument is, Morrow seemed to be better when it comes to micro and macro. On assembly both were just sticking with the build they had scouted out to be best for zvz. At the end of the day Rets build was superior compared to Morrows one. There was not much adapting done in the finals lol.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
February 27 2011 23:06 GMT
#104
Squirtle fighting! :D But I like many of the players here!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 27 2011 23:26 GMT
#105
On February 28 2011 07:25 robice wrote:
To the creator of the front page picture: Have a second look on the map, there is no Hanover in Germany


Google it, my friend. After turning on English search results instead of German.
www.intelextrememasters.com
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#106
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
February 28 2011 00:31 GMT
#107
On February 28 2011 09:10 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.


Almost every player (in Interviews) and viewer agreed that the upper half of the bracket was much stronger. So yeah, morrow had a harder way to the finals.
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 28 2011 00:55 GMT
#108
On February 28 2011 09:31 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 09:10 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.


Almost every player (in Interviews) and viewer agreed that the upper half of the bracket was much stronger. So yeah, morrow had a harder way to the finals.


Had the brackets backwards in my head. Changes exactly nothing, he wasn't prepared for a top level ZvZ and it showed.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
February 28 2011 01:10 GMT
#109
On February 28 2011 07:53 jalstar wrote:
Considering that the foreigners here are the best of the best, I'd rather have seen no Koreans than Koreans who aren't also the best of the best.

Although Ace, Squirtle, and Moon are great players and have good chances of winning, I don't feel like they represent Korea the way the rest of the players represent their country. Not trying to be too negative, it'll still be a great tournament, it just doesn't feel like a "world championship" without players like MVP and NesTea who have good cases for being the best in the world.


I couldn't agree more. It will be fun to watch the foreigners beat them though
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 01:33:43
February 28 2011 01:33 GMT
#110
On February 28 2011 06:00 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Day and TLO casting? YES PLEASE


LOL, I think TLO casting may be my favorite thing about this. I love his personality so much.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 28 2011 02:11 GMT
#111
I won an HD pass for this from ESFIworld lol, pretty cool, I would have bought one anyways so I'm pretty happy ^_^
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
February 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#112
Moonglade fighting!!!! <33
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
February 28 2011 04:00 GMT
#113
South America is just a communist invention.
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
SadStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico56 Posts
February 28 2011 04:25 GMT
#114
fenix isnt north american.. peru is in sound america
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
February 28 2011 05:07 GMT
#115
What would have happened if any of the Korean invites or Moonglade did not lose their first round? Wouldn't the round of 16 conflict with this?
KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
February 28 2011 05:58 GMT
#116
As long as Idra or moonglade (AUSSIE :D) win this will be great!

Or White-Ra, Hes too awesome.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
February 28 2011 06:28 GMT
#117
TLO casting with Day9? :O

How could I miss this? Insane player list too.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 28 2011 08:30 GMT
#118
On February 28 2011 11:11 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I won an HD pass for this from ESFIworld lol, pretty cool, I would have bought one anyways so I'm pretty happy ^_^


well deserved Gz !
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 28 2011 09:01 GMT
#119
Yo ESL people, since I hyped up your event can I have a free HD pass?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 10:28:48
February 28 2011 10:28 GMT
#120
On February 28 2011 09:55 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 09:31 vdale wrote:
On February 28 2011 09:10 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.


Almost every player (in Interviews) and viewer agreed that the upper half of the bracket was much stronger. So yeah, morrow had a harder way to the finals.


Had the brackets backwards in my head. Changes exactly nothing, he wasn't prepared for a top level ZvZ and it showed.

He wasn't prepared for ret's specific build, that's really the only thing you can say.

For example you also can't say that Tyler and Huk weren't prepared for top level PvP just because they lost to Socke.
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