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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 23 2010 06:27 GMT
#21
I can't believe Flash is out :O...

... good thing I'm a Jaedong/Stork fan lolololol

:p
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 07:10:57
December 23 2010 06:29 GMT
#22
Really nice Battle-reports. Read them fully inspite of watching stream(which is something I dont do usually!)

Sorry Flash is NOT yet a Bonjwa, end of story. Dominating a year of Terran-favored maps(last year) is good but being Bonjwa means you transcend "maps" as a factor in your winning. To become the 5th Bonjwa(after Savior) he has to prove himself on unfavored maps too, like this years which seems quite Zerg favored so far....
As I have had occasion to say in the past:
A year of dominance does NOT a bonjwa make.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 06:34:09
December 23 2010 06:30 GMT
#23
On December 23 2010 14:57 fly.stat wrote:
First letters of the Shot Down's paragraphs spell:

Still Bonwja (sic) Flash.

Where's my e-sports dollars?

aww, beat me to it
edit: also, i think bonjwa is spelled right

Nice writeup!
Translator:3
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
December 23 2010 06:35 GMT
#24
Thanks for the write up.

On December 23 2010 15:29 SushilS wrote:
Sorry Flash is NOT yet a Bonjwa, end of story. Dominating a year of Terran-favored maps(last year) is good but being Bonjwa means you transcend "maps" as a factor in your winning. To become the 5th Bonjwa(after Savior) he has to prove himself on unfavored maps too, like this years which seems quite Zerg favored so far....
As I have had occasion to say in the past:
A year of dominance does NOT a bonjwa make.


I don't even know what to say...
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
December 23 2010 06:36 GMT
#25
GO SHINE GO!!!
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
December 23 2010 06:37 GMT
#26
On December 23 2010 15:29 SushilS wrote:
Sorry Flash is NOT yet a Bonjwa, end of story. Dominating a year of Terran-favored maps(last year) is good but being Bonjwa means you transcend "maps" as a factor in your winning. To become the 5th Bonjwa(after Savior) he has to prove himself on unfavored maps too, like this years which seems quite Zerg favored so far....
As I have had occasion to say in the past:
A year of dominance does NOT a bonjwa make.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=152244
BaronFel
Profile Joined July 2009
United States155 Posts
December 23 2010 06:37 GMT
#27
STILL BONWJA FLASH (You misspeled bonjwa )
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
December 23 2010 06:40 GMT
#28
On December 23 2010 15:37 BaronFel wrote:
STILL BONWJA FLASH (You misspeled bonjwa )


misspelled purposely obviously. implying Flash is not bonjwa
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 23 2010 06:42 GMT
#29
On December 23 2010 15:37 BaronFel wrote:
STILL BONWJA FLASH (You misspeled bonjwa )

On December 23 2010 14:45 flamewheel wrote:
Now, with a mean of 7.75 and a standard deviation of around 1.48, Flash is still (barely) within the 95% range. While this doesn't really say anything in Starcraft, it still tells me enough that this isn't too weird, right?

Just...

Well... Flash is facing elimination in both leagues, having been knocked out of one with the other a very likely option. Losing a random Proleague game is far more trivial than losing an OSL/MSL game, not to even consider being knocked out of an individual league. Even if Paralyze beats Kal (that would be a feat in itself) and Flash manages to win the tiebreaker, that would still be... odd. It really all boils down to this though: Flash is out, and after a full year of winning pretty much everything, it seems that he's finally slowed down a bit.

Alright, I didn't want this to become very long-winded.


I fail to see how it's spelled wrong
Translator:3
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
December 23 2010 06:43 GMT
#30
On December 23 2010 15:29 SushilS wrote:
Sorry Flash is NOT yet a Bonjwa, end of story. Dominating a year of Terran-favored maps(last year) is good but being Bonjwa means you transcend "maps" as a factor in your winning. To become the 5th Bonjwa(after Savior) he has to prove himself on unfavored maps too, like this years which seems quite Zerg favored so far....
As I have had occasion to say in the past:
A year of dominance does NOT a bonjwa make.


I didn't ask to see a professional level demonstration of how to put your in foot in your mouth, but thank you for it nonetheless.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
December 23 2010 06:47 GMT
#31
On December 23 2010 15:42 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 15:37 BaronFel wrote:
STILL BONWJA FLASH (You misspeled bonjwa )

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 14:45 flamewheel wrote:
Now, with a mean of 7.75 and a standard deviation of around 1.48, Flash is still (barely) within the 95% range. While this doesn't really say anything in Starcraft, it still tells me enough that this isn't too weird, right?

Just...

Well... Flash is facing elimination in both leagues, having been knocked out of one with the other a very likely option. Losing a random Proleague game is far more trivial than losing an OSL/MSL game, not to even consider being knocked out of an individual league. Even if Paralyze beats Kal (that would be a feat in itself) and Flash manages to win the tiebreaker, that would still be... odd. It really all boils down to this though: Flash is out, and after a full year of winning pretty much everything, it seems that he's finally slowed down a bit.

Alright, I didn't want this to become very long-winded.


I fail to see how it's spelled wrong


Well and Just were flipped in original post haha
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 23 2010 06:51 GMT
#32
Nice report I enjoyed reading all of it ^^ hope to see more of this .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
December 23 2010 06:56 GMT
#33
GO JAEDONG GO!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 07:04:37
December 23 2010 07:04 GMT
#34
I resent you for trolling with the b-word when it's been effectively dead for a year or so

ok not dead, just meaningless
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
December 23 2010 07:05 GMT
#35
Excellent read. What an exciting turn of events those two Starleagues have been for the BW scene so far.
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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
December 23 2010 07:05 GMT
#36
IDRA QUOTE!!!!

GIMMIE MA MONEH!
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33552 Posts
December 23 2010 07:06 GMT
#37
fuck it, I'm gonna link to my old article every time someone trolls with bonjwa -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 23 2010 07:07 GMT
#38
GO JAEDONG GO!


On another note: Nice write-up
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
December 23 2010 07:08 GMT
#39
GO Jaedong Go!
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 07:14:31
December 23 2010 07:10 GMT
#40
On December 23 2010 15:18 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 15:06 Lightwip wrote:
Mmm idra quote.
That's a pretty funny quote but I'd attribute that more to TvT than PvP.
GO BEESUIT GO!


wait what? at least you can see tanks, and vultures don't drop on your head!?

Dunno man, tanks and vultures dropping right on top of you are pretty bad. The only way terran could be worse is if they had some sort of random invisible thing that just randomly destroys your entire army. OH WAIT!
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No I'm not serious.

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