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Liquipedia Review - Episode III

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Liquipedia Review - Episode III

Text byAesop
October 26th, 2009 10:02 GMT
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The Liquipedia Review - Volume III

mikeymoo and Imperator inform you about the latest trends in Liquipedia

We are approaching almost 1000 articles in Liquipedia! With our increasing amount of projects in the near future, we are steadily reaching our goal of being the most comprehensive up-to-date StarCraft resource of all time! Also, be sure to check out our new, restructured Strategy section! We've added some space to add 2v2 and BGH advice, which we know you have the means to edit. Lastly, cheers to Diamondback2 for having the initiative to include common build orders for popular maps.

1. New Head of Liquipedia (HOLP): Aesop!

You may have noticed an increase in the amount of blue you see when surfing the forums. That's right! Our beloved poster Aesop has received his long due promotion! Liquipedia will be moving fast in the days to come, so look forward to some Liquipedia-endorsed events in the near future! (We will miss you, Plexa <3)

2. Starleagues, Past and Present

Liquipedia is steadily increasing its database of Starleagues from the very beginning up until today. It is a large undertaking, so we need your help! Check out the OSL and MSL here! A good example of a Starleague page is the EVER 2008 OSL. And of course, we are trying to keep as up-to-date as possible with the EVER 2009 OSL. (Note the shiny new tabs in the Results and Standings page!) We even do Results and Standings for weekly Proleague!

You'll notice a lot of red links in the OSL section- these are missing articles. If you do choose to help out, make sure you look at our Style Guide. For those of you new to editing the wiki, we have a tutorial put together by our very own Pholon.
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Feel free to PM any of the staff with any questions you may have.

3. Liquichievements!

What are Liquichievements?
A Liquichievement is a cunning combination of the words "Liquipedia" and "Achievement". Sometimes it is difficult to recognize every edit that our users make, so we have developed a system of rewards to keep everyone motivated and happy. A Liquichievement goes on your user page, and is awarded if you have done a good job on an article or set of articles. An overview of Liquichievements can be found here.

How to receive Liquichievements
It's quite easy to receive some recognition for your hard work. Edit a page, put some hard work in, and someone will definitely see it (we check the recent edits fairly often). From there, we go to your user page and give you a Liquichievement! How's that for immediate gratification? So what are you waiting for? Go and see if you can earn yourself a Royal Injection, or maybe even an old M.U.L.E!

4. User in Spotlight

An interview with our new boss (don't bosses usually conduct the interviews?):
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LP: Care to give us a quick introduction of yourself?

Aesop: Hello, I am Aesop. I have been a member of TL.net since October 2007 and was recently staffed to head Liquipedia. I play Protoss with an abysmal PvT. In rl I just finished my studies of philosophy and I am about to enrol for a PhD program.

LP: How did you first get into StarCraft?

Aesop: when Starcraft launched, I had been playing a variety of games, like warcraft II, Diablo I and the C&C series. So it seemed natural to try it. Soon after I started playing LAN with friends.

LP: And it just spiraled out from there?

Aesop: hell, no

Aesop: I quit sc to play D II, I quit D II to play Wc3, I quit Wc3 to play WoW, I quit WoW to play Wc3, I quit Wc3 to play Bw

Aesop: so basically full circle

Aesop: certainly SC II on the horizon helped for rekindling my interest in brood war

Aesop: and when I found TL I was hooked

Aesop: there was just so much more flair to KOrean progaming than to any other scene I had seen

LP: Why did you decide to help with Liquipedia in its early stages?
Aesop: It appeared like a logical and desirable step to set something like it up. The strategy forum, overall, is a good place to get feedback on your games, but a bad structure to host any kind of systematized information. However, I suffered from the same symptome as many would-be or actual contributors: I did not think that I could contribute anything high-level enough to be included. So my initial contributions were limited.

Aesop: that changed obviously

LP: How do you think the average user can contribute, even if they feel they have no real strategy knowledge?

Aesop: This answer could get long, since this is one of my main messages: First of all, I am quite sure that there is no "average" user. There are common perceived barriers when starting to edit, such as too limited knowledge and all, but those are not sufficient to constitute something like an "average user"

Aesop: A very basic thing everyone can do is spellchecking and formating; the next thing is just going through existing content, using it and checking it for consistency. Sometimes we have people noting that a build order does not work out correctly, so they make a remark on the talk page, and similar.

Aesop: Thirdly, we have content sections beyond strategy now, namely Players, Teams, Leagues, Maps. We seek to contain all kinds of knowledge about Pro Gaming, so if you feel like recounting the storyline of a specific League (for example, the one where you got accustomed to Pro Gaming), it is also content we want.

Aesop: Fourthly, it is usually a bad approach to just think in abstract terms about "what could I do". Try this: Go to Liquipedia; push "Random Page". (Do it again when you hit the profile of an unknown player, we have many of those). You will soon read a page where you will think "wait, this isn't quite complete" or "wait, this is a bit too vague". And this is the point where you start editing.

Aesop: To make it short, I think every single member of TL can and should contribute to the wiki.

LP: What are your responsibilities in Liquipedia?

Aesop: That's hard to deliniate. Before moving on to staff, I saw myself mostly as a facilitator - I would talk to people, encourage them to edit the wiki, and, once started, to go on with that. I would have a look at other people's contributions and try to get the best out of those - besides adding whatever own content I had to offer.

Aesop: Besides that, I have been reviewing people's contributions, but that (luckily) doesn't take much time (except for removing that spam that tries to disguise itself as Obama's inaugural speech). Now my responsibilities range further; I still try to make as much happen as possible, but now I mainly try to coordinate the actions of the admin team (that luckily has grown a little more) and the other contributors.

LP: What is your vision for Liquipedia?

Aesop: I see liquipedia still in its infant stage. How long did it take wikipedia to become main-stream and as well-maintained as it is today? We are currently still in the process of catching up with whatever knowledge is floating around, be it about Players, be it about Strategy. Once those basic things are done, the real beauty of our wiki will shine through.

Aesop: One of the great future visions of Liquipedia obviously concerns Starcraft II: Can we be there right from the start? Will we have the infrastructure in place to become the #1 resource instantly? Will everyone be ready to contribute to this shared project? We are happy about the reputation we are starting to gain in Broodwar, but SCII might be the real watershed.

LP: Can you tell us about any future events or Liquipedia behind-the-scenes projects?

Aesop: I wouldn't want to disclose all the suspensefull projects we have lined up!

Aesop: but kidding aside, a second installment of our strategic Q&A might be in the works. Besides that, we are thinking of getting a very old project done.

LP: And that just about wraps up the interview. Do you have any final thoughts?

Aesop: Thanks to Teamliquid and especially to our stout contributors for making this awesome encyclopedia happen. (Pathos alarm): I live to serve, and my life for TLaiur!


5. Recent promotions

We are always looking for dedicated users to out staff. They help make the wiki what it is, and keep it running smoothly. We would like to congratulate our newest staff members on their promotions. Keep up the good work! That said, we'd like to recognize our two newest promotions: Pholon and Imperator!

Poll!

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Poll: Which is your favourite "Liquichievement"?
(Vote): Old M.U.L.E
(Vote): Comsat Sweeper
(Vote): Royal Injection

Cheers, Liquipedia Staff


Useful Liquipedia Links:
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ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
October 26 2009 10:30 GMT
#2
Woh looking forward to chrcking out the new strategy section. Great writeup Aesop!
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 26 2009 11:53 GMT
#3
Always cool to see deserving guys move up the ranks
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 26 2009 11:53 GMT
#4
What was an Old M.U.L.E ?
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
October 26 2009 13:47 GMT
#5
mhmh, might as well put in use my uber knowledge about BGH.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 26 2009 14:23 GMT
#6
TL at its best, keep up the great works guys!
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
October 26 2009 14:45 GMT
#7
GJ! Liquipedia Hwaiting!
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Virtuoso
Profile Joined December 2008
United States119 Posts
October 26 2009 16:01 GMT
#8
this seems cool. im not haggling anyone but when is the next Liquipedia discussion coming i look forward to that tvp talk =-) since the mech one was so good.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 26 2009 16:38 GMT
#9
On October 26 2009 20:53 crucifix wrote:
What was an Old M.U.L.E ?


M.U.L.E is starcraft 2 new "unit"
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 26 2009 17:34 GMT
#10
awesome. the 2v2 section is much appreciated. =D
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 17:39:32
October 26 2009 17:38 GMT
#11
On October 26 2009 19:02 Aesop wrote:
Our beloved poster Aesop has received his long due promotion!
lol. haha did he conduct his own interview too?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 18:13:26
October 26 2009 18:12 GMT
#12
On October 27 2009 02:38 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2009 19:02 Aesop wrote:
Our beloved poster Aesop has received his long due promotion!
lol. haha did he conduct his own interview too?

I could swear that was not in my first draft.
edit: no wait, it totally was. I think self-interviews should be standard, though. Saves us some work.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 26 2009 21:55 GMT
#13
Liquipedia is sexy.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 26 2009 22:17 GMT
#14
Nice job! :D
Wait no, AMAZING job! My PvT is abysmal as well lets be super best friends!
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
October 26 2009 22:53 GMT
#15
The post was composed by mikeymoo and Imperator, as noted on the top. I merely got to post it.

TheAntZ, that is an intriguing proposition!
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doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
October 26 2009 23:59 GMT
#16
So, if I'm not mistaken, the 2:2 threads are still empty, right?

Hmm.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
October 27 2009 09:29 GMT
#17
On October 27 2009 08:59 Thesecretaznman wrote:
So, if I'm not mistaken, the 2:2 threads are still empty, right?

Hmm.

Not quite, people have begun working on it now.
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FakeKisser
Profile Joined September 2008
United States159 Posts
October 27 2009 13:07 GMT
#18
Thanks for all the hard work you guys are doing! This is something that is definitely on my radar as far as finding how I can contribute. That being said, I'm working on a MA thesis right now, so I don't quite have the time at the moment.
"Every generation needs a revolution" - Thomas Jefferson
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 27 2009 17:50 GMT
#19
Thanks Aesop for the mention! Sry to be such a pain in the ass with my coding, this is just the first Wiki I have ever contributed to!

I've been working on it as much as I can, but I'm running low on builds ATM so anyone who can help please do so! It's a project you don't even have to be a good player to contribute to, you just have to know what builds work on which map!

Thanks again!
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