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Alakaslam
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On November 26 2020 04:57 Tictock wrote: I was just wondering if you had a real "oh yea this is his mafia play" read on me or if it was a low-hanging fruit thing Neither; it’s the lack of play at all! Low hanging fruit right now is probably FF or Jock. They literally have not pushed back against those accusing them at all. You at least have done that. | ||
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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate please. Where does this come from? It was just so weird, they were off in their own corner and I saw no real particularly townie thing from them. Lots of good stuff, but scum can do good too. It’s how you swindle town. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Comfortable with my vote. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem i see here is that it should be quite clear why i decided to change my lynch preference, as i said so. After that you start thinking Hapa and Trfel are mafia, not TT anymore, who was btw one of the people who at least quickly jumped on Grack is mafia train. Like i would be totally fine with your eod if you started yelling me "look this super scummy TT is gonna make you change the lynch!!" but no, that's not what you did. Even though TT technically at least possibly played a role in that. Another thing is that you had no problem with me lynching FF while you didn't think he was the best lynch. Suddenly there was a big nono when i move to some other target that is STILL not your preferred lynch. Think about this though. It’s NAI. If Grack were scum, that would implicate me. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it would implicate you MORE. It still may make you mafia because mafia often times react in completely retarded ways on something they dont expect to happen. Ok | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me ask you this Slam: When i asked you about your scumreads on Hapa and Trfel, why did you decide to answer me before looking at the flip? I mean like, if Grack had flipped mafia you should have said "i am dumb fuck me" and that is a reasonable answer. You know hapa was right? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: right on what? My point. Literally everything. Stop getting hung up on stupid timings of posts. You are literally assuming a false thing, so I can’t answer you. I obviously read the flip first. I didn’t expect 3p this game since it was full size. You asked a question; that was more important than my reactive remarks about the flip. Grack did not play like scum. Well, I wasn’t exactly wrong, but Hapa was also right as Grack was still anti town. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you think Hapa is town and not that Hapa and Trfel are mafia anymore? Right. I don’t think Hapa would be so spot on and Trfel is making real cases, of the type not seen since, I don’t know, Since Darth Vader felt the presence of Obi Wan. Like a long time ago. I’m back to actually agreeing with Trfel’s case. Here are my notes from my all filter dive when I thought I had a decent shot at mayoral election: Whole foods Red lettuce 3 heads Pork belly 3 chunks (from butcher) leaner chunk IF NOT; pork Loin 3 cloves whole garlic Woori market Jin Ramen mild 5 pack ($4.99) Shin Ramen same The ginger Stumptown 2 decaf hot latte ShoCkeyy wants Grack dead Jock is unsure Grack wants TT dead TT wants FF dead Rayn wants FF dead FF wants TT dead Vivax maybe Jock? Hapa wants Grack or Shokeyy Trfel wants jock or rayn Yes I put it with my shopping list. Anyway, I literally couldn’t gather who Jock or Vivax suspected, but Vivax at least had a tendency. Also ShoCkeyy looks good from this analysis. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 08:17 Trfel wrote: In other news, I'm starting to think less and less that raynpelikoneet is mafia. And I'm wondering more about Fecalfeast. Though I'm not sure if Fecalfeast would be quite this useless as mafia? Probably a terrible metric. Not really confident at all on who else is mafia (regardless of if I am right or not on Jockmcplop), unfortunately. Also, I won't be around for the deadline tomorrow, since it's a night deadline that should be fine though. How about I solve that for you: Rayn is not mafia | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: you must be mafia because you drink decaf btw... That was for my wife and mother in law. I prefer black, didn’t you see me getting that in AZ? Or maybe I got the lemonade. Anyway, hapa was right 3 times in a row was my angle. Right that Grack was not town, right that I was aware of his flip prior to posting, and right that it’s not indicative for me. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Basically Grack flipping the worst fucking role for the town ever was just a coincidence. Also how can you be right and Hapa be right at the same time if you are both same alignment and thought completely opposite things?!?!?!? I am right about myself. I am right that I had checked the lynch. I never claimed to be right about grack’s alignment post flip. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 09:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: eh.. i dont think you understand my point Or you aren’t allowing for the truth so I literally cannot give you an adequate answer? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gonna try to explain before i go to bed. My point is this: Prior to Grackaroni's flip you seemed to think that Hapa and Trfel are mafia because they are sitting in a corner trying to push something. After Grackaroni flips you seem to have changed your opinion on that (at least) Hapa isn't mafia for that anymore. That doesn't make much sense to me because if we assume Hapa is mafia then he doesn't know if Grackaroni is town or 3p, he only knows that Grackaroni is not mafia. I dont understand why Grackaroni flipping NOT mafia would give any town credit to Hapa (or anyone else in itself)? Because it does not make any sense. As to my original argument i still don't see any reason to change my view on that i think it is plausible you knew Grackaroni is not mafia before the flip. That's because of how you reacted to other people when i changed my lynch preference, and how you did NOT react to TT's posting at the time. It looks very bad to me tbh. Also coupled with the fact that -- where this argument went to -- you are simultaneously... idk like ... uhh.. trying to give Hapa credit for pointing out grack as not town and then also saying you were right on that grack was not mafia. It feels really weird for me, if you really think hapa can somehow discern 3p from town D1 then why should YOU be happy for being "right"? Shouldnt you be able to do that aswell if you were to get any credit? It seems like you are treating one and only one -- same situation one way for one person and the other way for another person. No. I’m not celebrating, but I am relieved I wasn’t completely wrong. I think there are four types of play in mafia, at least in this setup, and you are being very American and dividing it into two. If you consider red, blue, green, and black, then recognizing that black is not green or blue is a skill. A less good skill is seeing that black is not red, and thinking red is green is really bad because they are opposites. Blue is different entirely. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 10:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: In simple words, if you think hapa should have any credit for figuring out a 3p, why should you have any credit for not doing so? Right now you are saying both of you should, because grack was not town nor mafia lol.. When did I ask for credit? I explained to your hounding that I was expressing relief in NOT BEING QUITE AS WRONG AS I THOUGHT, not celebrating being somehow right! | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 10:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know you didnt ask for credit, i just subtly read it as so, because of "i was not quite wrong". In my world you saying "i was not quite wrong" and "hapa was right", one of the things is wrong. If you dont get why i think this, maybe someone who speaks better english and is smart can explain it in english... Now i have to go to bed, so good night. Black blue green red | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote: So how's everyone doing? Tired but happy How about you? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 11:17 Tictock wrote: Seems like he is just saying neither was totally wrong since he flipped neither town nor scum To mafia Gracks flip would have been a nice bonus as they just thought they were getting a mislynch. Well I hope this cuts through the argument because it felt like this Probably on both sides | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 26 2020 12:41 Trfel wrote: Honestly a bit down IRL still, but recovering. If anyone wants to talk about anything I am happy to! What happened? | ||
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