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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 15 2020 17:44 GMT
#343
On November 15 2020 19:22 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.

Do you believe everything you said here, Grey?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2020 07:28 GMT
#362
So Ever is claiming not town. Cool.
I'm guessing the only reason the game isn't over is because its 2v1v1. As such all we can hope for is the 2 opposing parties to shoot each other. I really doubt 5v1 with a vig is a thing.
##No Lynch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2020 07:42 GMT
#364
Okay so slam is just fucking around. I'm an infinite shot vig and I was gonna shoot ever, then last min changed to shockeyy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2020 07:44 GMT
#365
I think I know how to win this game now.
##Vote Alakaslam
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2020 09:48 GMT
#369
Tbh I was considering a yoloshot on grey myself.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2020 09:50 GMT
#370
Cop do you have a role? If so tell us anything about it that doesnt harm town. We've already got 3 vig claims so.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 16 2020 11:35 GMT
#373
On November 16 2020 19:01 CopCake wrote:
Why did you consider to shoot Grey Artanis?

And why did Ever went against Shockey is Vivax was her number one scum?

I thought he was fishing for night actions with Vivax earlier:
On November 16 2020 00:14 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 00:01 Vivax wrote:
EBWOP: If 3p, it would exist alongside two scum (and make town sort of pointless?)


I think we just need to assume scum exist and it’s possible for town to win. Further discussion of setup and balance only serves to dilute the thread and help scum.

Vivax, pretend you have a gun. Who do you shoot? Who would you save?

And in general he just felt a bit in the background. Doesn't matter anymore though given he's flipped town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2020 08:10 GMT
#408
On November 17 2020 16:59 Vivax wrote:
Ok?

Wtf is Artanis doing :|

Honestly realizing the setup made me fairly unmotivated to lynch anyone but Slam.

@Ever that was presuming I was the only vig in the game, but after Vivax claimed a vig shot as well I figured we're all just vig-es and Slam is being funny. The only alternative I see is that Copcake is mafia. I really don't think you or Vivax would play the way you have at the start of this day as Mafia.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2020 08:54 GMT
#420
On November 17 2020 17:47 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2020 17:34 Vivax wrote:
I haven't really had the feeling of being on the table at any point. I think night consensus was you?

Hmm, I guess I owe it to Grey that we lynch you

That's more or less what I meant.

I wanted you lynched.
Everyone was '?' on me
Grey/schock had heat little..

So why am I the one left alive? If everyone else had me as there most likely choice, with all these guns, obvious means I wasn't the top pick. If I had a vest as s!es, got shot, town claim shot, Lynch between us. It didn't happen though. I'm the mislynch of choice. Or mafia hoping I get shot tonight.

I don't see it. Mafia would never shoot you, so the only logical conclusion is that the town viges all ended up not shooting you in the end, myself included. It shouldn't imply anything.

Given Vivax claimed a shot on GreY, and I would argue that CopCake was more universally townread than GreY anyway, the question is why didn't mafia kill CopCake? To me, the answer is that either it's because it is her, or because there are no mafia in the game. I'm 45/50 on that, with a 5% chance that they stacked with Vivax on GreY or that Vivax is mafia and somehow fakeclaimed being a second vig in a 6-player setup. Possible, but very unlikely.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2020 09:05 GMT
#422
On November 17 2020 18:01 Eversince wrote:
I don't know anymore really.

Mafia would never shoot me per previous.
If town did, why not claim it and force 1v1?
If I was scum with vest I loss.
If I'm telling truth I'm dead.
If I'm scum why would I openly claim the shot on schock instead of trying to lie when I know claims going to make me look terrible before any else has claimed?

A lot of these claims are WIFOM. It could be one or both of the dead townies that shot you. Perhaps scum is invulnerable to all shots and can only lose due to a lynch. We don't know as it depends on the setup.

However, the biggest ? I have, more than you still being alive, is why CopCake is still alive if there's a non-CopCake mafia player.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2020 09:21 GMT
#432
On November 17 2020 18:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2020 18:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 17 2020 18:01 Eversince wrote:
I don't know anymore really.

Mafia would never shoot me per previous.
If town did, why not claim it and force 1v1?
If I was scum with vest I loss.
If I'm telling truth I'm dead.
If I'm scum why would I openly claim the shot on schock instead of trying to lie when I know claims going to make me look terrible before any else has claimed?

A lot of these claims are WIFOM. It could be one or both of the dead townies that shot you. Perhaps scum is invulnerable to all shots and can only lose due to a lynch. We don't know as it depends on the setup.

However, the biggest ? I have, more than you still being alive, is why CopCake is still alive if there's a non-CopCake mafia player.


Because I am not dead I am mafia? is what you are saying?

Can we also get to know your character?

Basically, either that or there are no mafia in the game are the most likely options from where I'm sitting. I'm Daisuke Jiggen, whoever that is.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2020 14:37 GMT
#445
We just need one more vote on Slam guys.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2020 22:54 GMT
#449
On November 18 2020 06:02 Eversince wrote:
Everyone has basically claimed bullets at this point.

I don't even know what makes me mafia here.
Nor at this point do I care. Vivax 180 on me seemed really easy. 'Oh Cake want ES dead? About face!'

Well this is a fun way to wake up.
I'm going to work. Art just hammer me. I will not do it myself as it's against my win con and I don't see Cake hammering Vivax. Best choice as town is to get rid of me.
Re to my previous point.. I'm not wasting another 3 days after this cycle if we no lynch. I will shoot Vivax tonight if I'm alive.

Ok
##Vote Eversince
I also object to the idea that we're voting slam to stay on as host. IM VOTING HIM FOR THE NOOSE DAMNIT
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 12:13 GMT
#479
I honestly have very little motivation to play this game tbh. It feels like it's completely governed by mechanics and whoever wins is because they guessed the mechanics correctly, or town didn't guess it correctly. I don't even know if there is mafia in the game or if we'd win by no shooting for a night.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 13:21 GMT
#482
On November 18 2020 21:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 01:29 Alakaslam wrote:
A Query has been lifted regarding the presence of Evulz in the game. I appreciate this query, but must claim Ignorance as my own possession.

+ Show Spoiler +
Tangentially someone could take offense to that claim. Obviously, I am referring to this game in particular; people are free to be ignorant of evil elsewhere!


Here

Yeah, he's claiming ignorance regarding whether there are mafia in the game or not. Basically its a non-answer as I understood it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 20:32 GMT
#494
On November 19 2020 05:16 Vivax wrote:
I guess I have a tinfoil theory where Artanis is scum.

Because I didn't realize you could actually vote for Slam until Hapa put it in spoilers. Artanis backing off there when I was ready to cruise for that lynch if it's even possible could mean he's mafia.

I voted seriously after because Hapa added
With 3 votes, Slam is set to be voted to be elected Host for another term.

I was hoping it'd be more entertaining than that, but they clearly weren't gonna do anything fun with it
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 20:34 GMT
#496
Also, I missed the part with the 'mafia passive ability triggered'. I guess that means there is a mafia in the game. Just wonder if it's actually possible to kill them with a shot. I would imagine that if we're all viges that GreY and Shockey were too. Neither of them shot Ever? Seems unlikely.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 20:52 GMT
#501
On November 19 2020 05:39 Vivax wrote:
Feels a lot like this is stuff you wouldn't have talked about if not considered as mafia just now.

Your posting spontaneity is lacking.

Ok

I really don't care that much tbh. You made a point that was wrong, I corrected it. Whether you believe me or not doesn't bother me much.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 20:55 GMT
#503
I mean, if you want to believe that as mafia I see 2 vig claims at the start of the day and go 'hey let's claim a shot on shockeyy too and then proceed not to push Ever' while caring as little about the game as I have, that is your perogative.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 18 2020 21:22 GMT
#508
On November 19 2020 06:16 CopCake wrote:
Besides Artanis early game kinda hinted vig before the results of the night with the rockets on his garden. So I suggest to go simple atm. If at the end, they are mafia I attack Ever and you go for Artanis.


Man I hadn't even thought of that, it wasn't intended as a breadcrumb either :D
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